optusman Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 The unofficial scoop from Panasonic Australia is that they are in negotiations with Head Office to release the 50" 1920 x 1080p model to coincide for the US release in June. At this stage, there are no plans to release the 58" model which is also slated for a June release in the US. The 42" model (which was protyped earlier this year) launch date is yet to be determined. They are still having some technical issues which are being sorted through (something to do with the processing chipset). I have no ideas on pricing for OZ. Main reasons for wanting to bring this forward are: - cost recoveries for their megaplant - first mover advantage in Plasma 'true HD' - a concern that growth in consumer spending will slow down in Q3-Q4 07 - LCD gaining greater market share - The 'yum cha' brands improving their quality to near the current PV and PX series - Consumers will want a 'true HD' Plasma (even if they don'y know what that means) Don't ask how I know> I can probably get more information and no, I don't work for Pana, a competitor or Optus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korrupt Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Interesting stuff. I would hope the 58" model comes with it, if the 50" drops early. Would be interesting to see how it is priced compared to Pioneer's 1080p plasma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elucubrator Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Great news! Thanks for the info. Please post more as you are able. This forum is great: I was going to go for the current Pana panels, until I read the whisper that the true HD ones were coming, and this vindicates my decision. (Plus gives me more time to save...) Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyestrain Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 The unofficial scoop from Panasonic Australia is that they are in negotiations with Head Office to release the 50" 1920 x 1080p model to coincide for the US release in June. At this stage, there are no plans to release the 58" model which is also slated for a June release in the US. This news, considered in relational to the release of the new Hitachi 50inch 1280×1080 resolution panel, really shows that their is going to be an increase in the number and resolution of 50inch plasma panels later this year. Lets hope prices for all the 50inch panels fall too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optusman Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share Posted January 27, 2007 Great news! Thanks for the info. Please post more as you are able. This forum is great: I was going to go for the current Pana panels, until I read the whisper that the true HD ones were coming, and this vindicates my decision. (Plus gives me more time to save...) Cheers. Hi there, the fact they are in negotiations doesn't mean it's a certainty so let's wait and see but the intent is there Also, forgot to mention that the internal HD tuner should be of a higher quality than the one currently in the PX series (taking nothing away from the PX series tuner) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 I do hope people are not expecting a significant step up in picture quality with a 1080 42” or 50” Plasma over the current 768 examples, because you will need to sit damn close to see any improvement. Pioneer already have a 1080p 50” and viewing tests side by side with a current Pioneer 768p 50”, using BluRay and HDDVD source have shown there is essential zero visible difference at any more then 2.1 meters viewing distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 The unofficial scoop from Panasonic Australia is that they are in negotiations with Head Office to release the 50" 1920 x 1080p model to coincide for the US release in June. At this stage, there are no plans to release the 58" model which is also slated for a June release in the US.The 42" model (which was protyped earlier this year) launch date is yet to be determined. They are still having some technical issues which are being sorted through (something to do with the processing chipset). I have no ideas on pricing for OZ. Main reasons for wanting to bring this forward are: - cost recoveries for their megaplant - first mover advantage in Plasma 'true HD' - a concern that growth in consumer spending will slow down in Q3-Q4 07 - LCD gaining greater market share - The 'yum cha' brands improving their quality to near the current PV and PX series - Consumers will want a 'true HD' Plasma (even if they don'y know what that means) Don't ask how I know> I can probably get more information and no, I don't work for Pana, a competitor or Optus that is excellent news optus man. the more 1920x1080p models we have out there the better. will be excellent given their native display given the 1920x1080p output off the hidef players. and these smaller models are probably goign to be more realistically priced to the bigger models eg the 65" pana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PersianImmortal Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 I do hope people are not expecting a significant step up in picture quality with a 1080 42” or 50” Plasma over the current 768 examples, because you will need to sit damn close to see any improvement. I agree, the decision to release a 1080P 42" set confuses me. 50" would be the minimum size I'd have expected, with the larger sizes being where the majority of sales should sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCRider Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 I agree, the decision to release a 1080P 42" set confuses me. 50" would be the minimum size I'd have expected, with the larger sizes being where the majority of sales should sit. forget it Fella's most of you won't be allowed to buy anything bigger than 42" anyway as your partner won't let you! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornton Melon Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 forget it Fella's most of you won't be allowed to buy anything bigger than 42" anyway as your partner won't let you! LOL Ha ha,my boss already said I can have a 50" if I want! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton-P. Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Ha ha,my boss already said I can have a 50" if I want!Cheers Yeah ... that's only because it's insurance money (well I do hope you had insurance on the walked items) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uforia Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 I wonder what price will be roughly if the 50" 1080p gets released around June? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taksan Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 RRP of $5899 for the 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uforia Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 The 1080p will be the same price as current 1080i?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjc Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 I agree, the decision to release a 1080P 42" set confuses me. Just the progression of sales pitch to keep the industry rolling. The current panels with inbuilt tuners eg Hitachi/Pana/Pioneer will be as goods most need but how do you keep interest up ? ... bring out something "better" even though you cant tell it is! Philip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larstetens Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Man I absolutely hate this.....I was up until this news regarding Pioneer 99% ready to go after the 47inch Sony X-Series.....now I'm having my doubts.....I hate this. Optusman can you keep us posted on this...and "anymore information" you "happen" to stumble across or become prevy to would be most greatly appreciated. Thanks for the "heads up" and please keep-em coming mate. Cheers OH...FYI...I was at the GG on O'Riordon st today(Sydney) ....and the Sony 47inch has been dropped to $5299.00 + "less for cash". Is it me or does it seem like the price drop of 5% to the dealers might have been more? I also asked about the BIG X-series...and they told me I could prob pic that up for around $7500.00. Not bad for a TV that hasn't been out that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 I think it's why Pioneer dropped the price of their 1080p 50" from $14,999 to $12,999 and now $10,999...all in the space of about 4 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larstetens Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Man I absolutely hate this.....I was up until this news regarding Pioneer 99% ready to go after the 47inch Sony X-Series.....now I'm having my doubts.....I hate this.Optusman can you keep us posted on this...and "anymore information" you "happen" to stumble across or become prevy to would be most greatly appreciated. Thanks for the "heads up" and please keep-em coming mate. Cheers OH...FYI...I was at the GG on O'Riordon st today(Sydney) ....and the Sony 47inch has been dropped to $5299.00 + "less for cash". Is it me or does it seem like the price drop of 5% to the dealers might have been more? I also asked about the BIG X-series...and they told me I could prob pic that up for around $7500.00. Not bad for a TV that hasn't been out that long. Do you think they are implementing the technology from the PDP-5000ex series? I'm just curious as to how this new upcomming panel is supposed to be a mindblowing piece of technology-when I thought they had accomplished this with the PDP-5000ex?, which is still over $10,000 I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 I think it is different to the 5000EX as it has "measurable" contrast. I think I read that the new Pio panel had "Immeasurable" contrast (?) WETHTM!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larstetens Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 diesel, Good point.....Optusman....do you have or can you come up with any information that might tell us what is the difference between these new upcomming panels and the PDP-5000EX? I'm dying to know what the difference is......since the new panel is unmeasurable as diesel stated. I'm trying to type and watch tennis at the same time.....good match...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 The 1080p will be the same price as current 1080i?? There is no 1080i Panasonic 50", only a 768p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermuffle Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 although there may be not much difference with 1080p vs 768p at more than 2.1 metres, won't there be a difference with pq with hdmi 1.3 - xycc colour etc. and all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optusman Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 diesel,Good point.....Optusman....do you have or can you come up with any information that might tell us what is the difference between these new upcomming panels and the PDP-5000EX? I'm dying to know what the difference is......since the new panel is unmeasurable as diesel stated. I'm trying to type and watch tennis at the same time.....good match...... Hi there, to make it easier, would it be possible for you to summarise the top 3 questions you want me to follow up on to minimise the number of times I have to ask. I think Persian Immortal is right about the value of this in the 42" (my opinion, nobody else's). Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCRider Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 I do hope people are not expecting a significant step up in picture quality with a 1080 42” or 50” Plasma over the current 768 examples, because you will need to sit damn close to see any improvement.Pioneer already have a 1080p 50” and viewing tests side by side with a current Pioneer 768p 50”, using BluRay and HDDVD source have shown there is essential zero visible difference at any more then 2.1 meters viewing distance. Hi Owen I read this on the US AVSFORUM site. Guess whether you want to part with your dollars really depends on the viewing distance. I sit approx 5m from my 50" PV60a and really wont benifit if I upgrade. The wife won't let me move the furniture closer to the TV.(We agreed this is her domain) Love her for that as I can put the $5 plus K towards my HT room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 although there may be not much difference with 1080p vs 768p at more than 2.1 metres, won't there be a difference with pq with hdmi 1.3 - xycc colour etc. and all? All domestically available video is 24bit (8bits for Red, 8bits for Blue and 8bits for Green), and that’s not going to change for many years. HDMI 1.1 and 1.2 already support 10bits per colour, which is much more then can be used now, or in the foreseeable future. Other features like support for more then 1920x1080 resolution and high refresh rates are also pointless on displays that are not more then 1920x1080, displaying video with a frame rates of no more then 60Hz., both supported under HDMI 1.1 and 1.2. BluRay and HDDVD only support 1920x1080p at 24 frames per second in 24bit colour, so we will be waiting for the next generation HD media format to deliver more then 1080p 24 and more then 24bit colour. HDMI 1.3 is nothing more then hype marketing, just as 1920x1080 resolution displays are for most people. They have to keep coming up with ways to get people to spend money on new TV’s, even if those reasons have no value to most customers. More pixels obviously has more marketing appeal then better black levels and video processing performance, both of which are more important to a good picture then increased resolution. Current 1080 Plasmas from both Panasonic and Pioneer have inferior contrast ratio’s and black levels to there 768p brothers, and I expect the 1080 50” Panasonic to be similar. So much for progress. Pioneer is talking about new 1080 models with much improved blacks, but they wont be cheap or available soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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