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Denon 3805, Panasonic S-97, Peter Gabriel Dvd


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I have an intriquing problem. As per the thread title I am playing the Peter Gabriel DVD "PLAY" on a Panasonic S-97 through a Denon 3805. When I switch to DTS the sound drops out (both volume and quality). It is not subtle, it is a dramatic difference.

I have switched to my Pioneer DVD-R which is connected to the AVR with optical cable and therefore handles DTS. The same thing happens.

In both cases the AVR displays the source as DTS 96/24.

Interestingly, I have NOT had problems with ANY other DTS 96/24 DVD's like Queen etc. This lead me to believe it was a DVD problem.

HOWEVER, I took the DVD over to Benthx's yesterdays where we played it through his kick-ass system. He also has the Panasonic S-97 but different AVR and speakers. There was NO dropout when switching from DTS to DD5.1.

This leads me to believe there is something different in the set-up in my Denon 3805 AVR. But what? I've played with everything in the set-up that I can think of.

Anyone got any ideas?

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Hi Lyle...I have the Denon2106 and I'm pretty sure you can reset it back to factory defaults.Might be worth trying this if possible; making note of any calibrations you would obviously have done. :blink:
Yes, that's a good idea and I've been contemplating that option as a last resort.
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I also have the same DVD (running through a RXV2700) and there was a known problem with the authoring of this disc. It seems that the DTS 24/96 track was mixed far too low, and amps that are capable of doing 24/96 had to be turned up almost full way to playback. This was noted on PG's website at the time of release.

Not sure what amp/processor Ben is using but it may not have DTS 24/96 built in, merely DTS or DTS-ES. I played the disc through a vanilla NAD amp and it played back fine as regular DTS.

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I also have the same DVD (running through a RXV2700) and there was a known problem with the authoring of this disc. It seems that the DTS 24/96 track was mixed far too low, and amps that are capable of doing 24/96 had to be turned up almost full way to playback. This was noted on PG's website at the time of release.
That sounds like it exactly.

Did the issue get resolved with later issues of the DVD?

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Actually found lots of references to the problem at the Peter Gabriel site. (Thanks mark). It was indeed resolved in a limited later release. Good to know cause i was going mad with this one.

Here is an excerpt from somone that purports to have resolved the issue:

Hello All,

I fixed the DTS96/24 playback on my PLAY dvd and would like to share it with you. I've got the PAL dvd but this should work on the NTSC version too.

First you need to copy the DVD to your harddisk and remove the CSS protection. I used DVD Shrink for this and also to resize the DVD to 4.7GB.

The next step is to run each VOB file through a small program that modifies the Dialogue Normalisation parameters in the DTS stream. This is little app I slapped together from the MPEG and DTS specs - drop me a mail *** if you want a copy.

Lastly you burn the files to DVD and enjoy

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note that this is NOT the denon fault. This is only a mastering error. Denon hardware follow perfectly the DTS spec.

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