Jvc Dla Hd1 Powerbuy Thread

[Trigg]

Ben,

Whilst I would have loved to join this power buy, I will not be in a position to install a projector now until the end of the year, so i will set back and wait to see what is instore over the next 10 months!

[BOYD]

HI , THIS IS MY FIST POST ON THIS FORUM . I HAVE BEEN WAITING AND WAITING AND RESEARCHUING CONSTANTLY FOR TYE RIGHT pj TO COME ALONG AND HAVE AGONISED OVER A PURCHASE . NOW IT SEEMS THE WAIT IS OVER WITH THIS JVC DLA HD1 . I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO JOIN IN A POWERBUY . I HAVE SEEN A PRICE POSTED ON PRICE JAPAN AND WONDR HOW MUCH BETTER IT CAN BE GOT HERE AMD THROUGH jvc AUS FOR BETTER SUPPORT/ BACKUP . i TRIED DOING THE PM THING WITH NO LUCK . I WILL TRY AGAIN BUT IF NOT COUOLD A WISER USER EMAIL ME WITH THE EXPECTED POWERBUY INFO ???? THANKS AND I THINK FORUMS LIKE THIS ARE HEAVEN SENT . KEEP IT UP ....... BOYD

[Gino]

Try without the CAPS LOCK next time, but yes, great price for this powerbuy.

[Santa1503559644]

Yeah, good price, but don't need to shout it from the rooftops, BOYD!

To get the ability to PM, make 10 posts in this thread.

[Jus1503561049]

Hi Boyd,

Yep, your PM function is disabled until you hit 10 posts, I had the same problem.

Please send me an email at justin_d@exemail.com.au and I'll pass on all the relevant information.

Forget about Price Japan, the power buy price Ben and myself have facilitated is far better, not to mention you have to add to their price any import duties on the Jap unit. With regards warranty on a Jap spec unit, well you don't get one, not in Aus anyway. You would be required to send it back to Price Japan and they would then endeavour to sort out any required servicing or repairs via the dealer who supplied the unit. I know all this as I looked into importing a Marantz 12s1, back then the savings to be had were very significant compaired to buying locally and for that matter I didn't know what a power buy was .

If anyone was wondering what a replacement lamp will cost for the HD1 there is a post over on the Rs1 thread that I made earlier today that should help, kinda .

Cheers,

Jus.

[djOS]

That is a STATE secret. The numbers are sufficient to entitle us to a very generous discount.

PM me if you didnt get the current price.

I think its a point worth mentioning that soon we will be ending the powerbuy and getting it under wraps. It will be time to place the order.

Thanks to everyone so far. A good price for you is a good price for everyone.

Ben

Benthx you've been offered the services of someone who can shave at least several hundred dollars of the price you are proposing (and you know who im talking about) - what I want to know is what kick-back you have lined up from "your supplier"? it's the only reason I can think of for you not taking him up on his very generous offer!

[Drizt]

Ben you've been offered the services of someone who can shave at least several hundred dollars of the price you are proposing (and you know who im talking about) - what I want to know is what kick-back you have lined up from "your supplier"? it's the only reason I can think of for you not taking him up on his very generous offer!

Could it be loyalty to someone who has given him the time of day in the past ? When your talking $9k whats a few hundred between friends

[Gino]

Ben - I might have some buyers in the UK... is it possible to work out a price for them at all? They realise they need to pay import duty/tax etc...

May benefit us since that would mean more buyers.

[djOS]

Could it be loyalty to someone who has given him the time of day in the past ? When your talking $9k whats a few hundred between friends

Like I said, the likely hood is that there would be "at least" a saving of several hundred dollars, but imo it is that is being conservative.

Anyway Im not saying anymore on the matter as im merely an external observer; I suggest those of you who are genuinely interested in the JVC pressure BenTHX into at least investigating the offer that has been made to him properly, rather than rejecting it out of hand.

[Ebe]

Like I said, the likely hood is that there would be "at least" a saving of several hundred dollars, but imo it is that is being conservative.

Anyway Im not saying anymore on the matter as im merely an external observer; I suggest those of you who are genuinely interested in the JVC pressure BenTHX into at least investigating the offer that has been made to him properly, rather than rejecting it out of hand.

Hola Djos ! ( Well it is Spanish ! )

Hmmm your opinion, well I guess we all have those, but this seems to be boadering

on speculation, with a hint of !. May I offer a few suggestions as regards

this.

1. As far as "kick- backs" go you are too far wide of the mark ( by miles )

not everyone is out to be a singular. . . looks at me. . .look at what I have done

type of person, and there are those us out there who do "fight for the common man !".

2. Speculation on the $ value that might or might not have been given. . . and passed

onto those willng participants of the "power buy", is for only those who have bought.

3. As for trying to put pressure on Ben !. . . .Ha ! the best of luck, some do not buckle

under pressure, they only get stronger in their resolve.

4. Should you wish to participate in the power buy, PM Ben or links provided and you

will be informed of the details, therefore this clears up any . . . .speculation !.

5. I believe the reason why the power buy was started was because Ben wanted to

purchase a unit himself and with the collective buying of the group this enabled a lower

price for all.

Hope this clears up a few things

regards

Ebe

[djOS]

Hola Djos ! ( Well it is Spanish ! )

Hmmm your opinion, well I guess we all have those, but this seems to be boadering

on speculation, with a hint of !. May I offer a few suggestions as regards

this.

1. As far as "kick- backs" go you are too far wide of the mark ( by miles )

not everyone is out to be a singular. . . looks at me. . .look at what I have done

type of person, and there are those us out there who do "fight for the common man !".

2. Speculation on the $ value that might or might not have been given. . . and passed

onto those willng participants of the "power buy", is for only those who have bought.

3. As for trying to put pressure on Ben !. . . .Ha ! the best of luck, some do not buckle

under pressure, they only get stronger in their resolve.

4. Should you wish to participate in the power buy, PM Ben or links provided and you

will be informed of the details, therefore this clears up any . . . .speculation !.

5. I believe the reason why the power buy was started was because Ben wanted to

purchase a unit himself and with the collective buying of the group this enabled a lower

price for all.

Hope this clears up a few things

regards

Ebe

Ebe, I know what they cost and I know what Benthx is putting forward as a "power-buy" price and there is a sizable gap between them. I also know the individual personally who made benthx the offer and have seen the correspondence from him brushing his offer away.

Anyway Im not saying anymore in public on the matter as I have no intention of buying another new PJ (I just got a Z5). My advice to anyone serious about this PJ is do your homework and dont take anyones word (including mine) for granted.

Btw, djOS is a play on my initials D J O + the 2nd letter of my last name "S" so any resemblance to spanish is purely coincidental.

[Drizt]

Ebe, I know what they cost and I know what Benthx is putting forward as a "power-buy" price and there is a sizable gap between them. I also know the individual personally who made benthx the offer and have seen the correspondence from him brushing his offer away.

Anyway Im not saying anymore in public on the matter as I have no intention of buying another new PJ (I just got a Z5). My advice to anyone serious about this PJ is do your homework and dont take anyones word (including mine) for granted.

Btw, djOS is a play on my initials D J O + the 2nd letter of my last name "S" so any resemblance to spanish is purely coincidental.

Can I suggest posting the full facts.

Making accusations like this can seem underhanded... if you werent going to post the full details why post at all ?

[Jus1503561049]

djOS,

I shouldn't speak for Ben but I can tell you that to the very best of my knowledge Ben is NOT receiving any kick back from the supplier, for that matter nor am I.

I secured the final pricing myself after Ben's OK, we had discussed where we were at price wise the night before and were confident that with all offers on the table we were going with the best option. Rest assured at that stage if we could have saved "at least" several hundred dollars more, the current supplier would have been asked to match this price, you have my word.

I believe what may have happened is that after we had secured the order with our supplier Ben had been approached by another party offering a further discount. He made mention of this in an email to me today but was very aloof about it all.

As Dritz said at some point loyalty has to come into play, otherwise one could go back and forth between suppliers even though you have promised said supplier the power buy contingent on a minimum number of units.

In my opinion that is not cool, that being said I'll speak to Ben and find out myself what exactly is going on here. Ben started the power buy but I have invested a lot of personal time in the latter part of it speaking to the supplier at length on many occasions and promptly answering any emails sent to me. As such if there is a satisfactory way for this deal to be improved upon without putting many noses seriously out of joint I feel Ben, myself and the group collective should look at possible options.

At the end of the day it's not just my money that is going to the supplier, it is the collective funds of the group that have enabled our bargaining position, if the collective would feel happy to ignore the current deal that has already been struck the other option djOS is eluding to could be explored.

In my opinion I'd rather honour the current deal as the supplier has worked hard on achieving the current price, all be it perhaps a few hundred more than otherwise could be obtained, however I'm not privy to such information as yet .

Cheers,

Jus.

[Gino]

Who is the supplier?

[Ebe]

Djos !

In a word you are . . . . a Liar !

You have NO information, you know . . . NOTHING !

. . . how dare you make such statement which you know to be untrue !~

If you are so confident in this deal and the correspondence you have seen,then I suggest

you share it with Ben in Private, or since you appear to be still logged on, he would be,

I think, more than happy to speak with you with about this supposedly great other offer.

Or email him !.

regards

Ebe

Live long and. . . dont prosper ! heheh

[benthx]

Ebe, I know what they cost and I know what Benthx is putting forward as a "power-buy" price and there is a sizable gap between them. I also know the individual personally who made benthx the offer and have seen the correspondence from him brushing his offer away.

Dear Mr DJOS

I find your avatar rather interesting. The creature with its tongue poking out with wiggly hands on the side of its head. Is this perhaps drawing a parallel to what you are about?

If you know the cost then you know people need to cover expenses and make a reasonable profit and remain in business the end of the day. Do you work for say perhaps $7.50 per hour? I think not. Would you like to quantify the "sizable gap"

I dont believe with all honesty you know who the other person is and what the correspondance is period. I believe you are gravely mistaken.

Perhaps you are friends or know another dealer. Sometimes in sales the other party(ies) are dispondant with not winning the bid. So in true 'car salesman' counter attack they do whats known as......... 'throwing a hand grenade'. "hey if you bought from us we could have done it cheaper and saved you $$$" well this is known as sour grapes.

Perhaps you secretly would like to trade in your current PJ?

Thankyou for your fantasy

Ben

[Jus1503561049]

Hi guys,

I've just got off the phone with Ben and although it is quite late (I'd rather be in bed) I feel it prudent to clarify the power buy position with respect to the assertions djOS has made.

There was in fact another party (new player) that had approached Ben following the securing of the power buy with our supplier. Ben made it quite clear in no uncertain terms that this party have made no such offer which would see a further saving of "at least" several hundred dollars. He/she, I do not know the supplier, have simply stated that in the event of the numbers not being met for our power buy they would do their best to match the current price on offer with their own power buy, nothing more.

Contrary to what djOS so adamantly implied we stand to gain nothing by dishonouring our current agreement. It would only result in a further possible delay as our supplier has made JVC aware of the pending order and is doing everything in their power to secure as many units as possible to cover our pre-order as such.

In retrospect I should have rung Ben before posting my original response as some may make the inferenece that because Ben and I were not entirely on the same page there could be some truth to the accusations made by djOS. I'll annunciate this clearly one last time as I wish there to be no mistake, there are no kickbacks for Ben and I, we pay what you all pay, PERIOD!

My reward for doing all the work I have done thus far is the ability to pay as much as $1K less on this unit now as part of the power buy compaired to the very first price I was offered by a supplier for a singular unit. Yes everyone else who has not done all the work that Ben and myself have done and who are probably in bed asleep will benefit to the same degree but that is something I'm 100% fine with as $1000 in my pocket certainly more than compensates my efforts thus far.

I think some and by some I mean a very small minority on this forum need to take a step back from the dollar saving aspect of the purchase and look closely at what we are getting for an already incredible price. I am terribly excited about the potential this machine has to offer.

As sad is it sounds I have been researching front projectors on and off for near on 6 years and are yet to purchase one. Largely due to what I consider to be a "nice" picture has been only available on units which were priced as such that their rapid devaluation made me perhaps stupidly continue along the inevitable I'll wait for the next latest/greatest iteration. Well the JVC finally meets my requirments of a machine which offers for all intents and purposes a reference picture quality at a price which is almost half what some may have paid for their VPL-VW10HT's. Yes that was a fine digital machine in its day but I cringe at the thought of mentioning it in the same sentence as the HD1. Point of fact they can be had for a few hundred bucks on ebay now and had retailed for $13K if i recall correctly.

So please, let's put this into context as the HD1 has the potential to bring reference quality front projection to the masses, I for one care far more about the various aspects of picture quality on offer here than rebutting the rants of another forum member for the sake of speculating on a few hundred dollars.

Stepping off my soap box now so I can go to bed and maybe dream of a front projection system soon to be installed that as little as 3 years ago (i.e. Qualia 004 or HD2K) would have required a second mortgage on my house to achieve.

Cheers,

Jus.

[cwt]

My reward for doing all the work I have done thus far is the ability to pay as much as $1K less on this unit now as part of the power buy compaired to the very first price I was offered by a supplier for a singular unit. Yes everyone else who has not done all the work that Ben and myself have done and who are probably in bed asleep will benefit to the same degree but that is something I'm 100% fine with as $1000 in my pocket certainly more than compensates my efforts thus far.

Watch out Jus ; you've let the cat out of the bag price wise Its a good thing Ive retired the vpl vw10ht to get a pearl or Ide be depressed You and benthx should be thanked for putting in the hours

[norpus]

Moving on

I just received an answer back from price japan re my request yesterday for the price of the lamp. They have kindly put it up on their price list and it comes in currently at $296AUD shipped via EMS

So that is great news for those in the power buy - it is not an expensive lamp - in fact it is an inexpensive one that will be readily available. I don't know what the powerbuy vendor will sell it to us for , but it does look encouraging

http://www.pricejapan.com/front/e_good_inf...&category=7

[Jus1503561049]

Hi guys,

after re reading my incredibly lengthy post to check for any typos I suspect I may have come on a bit strong with regards a few points.

My bad, I was a little tired and somewhat worked up by the accuastions djOS had made , I apologise to all.

As norpus so aptly put it "Moving on", I couldn't agree more.

By the way thanks for posting the lamp info.

Cheers,

Jus.

[djOS]

Djos !

In a word you are . . . . a Liar !

You have NO information, you know . . . NOTHING !

. . . how dare you make such statement which you know to be untrue !~

If you are so confident in this deal and the correspondence you have seen,then I suggest

you share it with Ben in Private, or since you appear to be still logged on, he would be,

I think, more than happy to speak with you with about this supposedly great other offer.

Or email him !.

regards

Ebe

Live long and. . . dont prosper ! heheh

Sorry you feel that way and apologies for casting aspersions towards Benthx, maybe the supplier is at fault here for not giving you good folk a better deal - seriously for 10 you should be getting a better price.

Btw, folks apologies for starting a forum war - I should have kept out of this.

Dear Mr DJOS

I find your avatar rather interesting. The creature with its tongue poking out with wiggly hands on the side of its head. Is this perhaps drawing a parallel to what you are about?

If you know the cost then you know people need to cover expenses and make a reasonable profit and remain in business the end of the day. Do you work for say perhaps $7.50 per hour? I think not. Would you like to quantify the "sizable gap"

I dont believe with all honesty you know who the other person is and what the correspondance is period. I believe you are gravely mistaken.

Perhaps you are friends or know another dealer. Sometimes in sales the other party(ies) are dispondant with not winning the bid. So in true 'car salesman' counter attack they do whats known as......... 'throwing a hand grenade'. "hey if you bought from us we could have done it cheaper and saved you $$$" well this is known as sour grapes.

Perhaps you secretly would like to trade in your current PJ?

Thankyou for your fantasy

Ben

Actually Im in the IT/Insurance industry so if I was getting $7.50 and hour, i'd be the fool!

Like I said earlier, Im an external observer but maybe I dont know all the facts, but I do believe there is a better deal out their to be had.

As for my avatar, it's from the Hitch hikers guide to the galaxy and well worth a read for those of you with a warped sense of humour.

[djOS]

---SNIP---

Contrary to what djOS so adamantly implied we stand to gain nothing by dishonouring our current agreement. It would only result in a further possible delay as our supplier has made JVC aware of the pending order and is doing everything in their power to secure as many units as possible to cover our pre-order as such.

In retrospect I should have rung Ben before posting my original response as some may make the inferenece that because Ben and I were not entirely on the same page there could be some truth to the accusations made by djOS. I'll annunciate this clearly one last time as I wish there to be no mistake, there are no kickbacks for Ben and I, we pay what you all pay, PERIOD!

My reward for doing all the work I have done thus far is the ability to pay as much as $1K less on this unit now as part of the power buy compaired to the very first price I was offered by a supplier for a singular unit. Yes everyone else who has not done all the work that Ben and myself have done and who are probably in bed asleep will benefit to the same degree but that is something I'm 100% fine with as $1000 in my pocket certainly more than compensates my efforts thus far.

---SNIP---

Jus, if you are serious about getting the best deal possible then I suggest you ask Benthx to follow up the offer of assistance that was made to him - if it turns out to be a better deal then you will have saved more money, if not you have lost nothing.

[georgeb]

Moving on

I just received an answer back from price japan re my request yesterday for the price of the lamp. They have kindly put it up on their price list and it comes in currently at $296AUD shipped via EMS

So that is great news for those in the power buy - it is not an expensive lamp - in fact it is an inexpensive one that will be readily available. I don't know what the powerbuy vendor will sell it to us for , but it does look encouraging

http://www.pricejapan.com/front/e_good_inf...&category=7

This is good news and adds further attractiveness to an already desirable pj. My experience is that the local price of projector globes may bear no relation to their price o/s. By way of example the local price of a globe for a VW50 is at least twice the o/s price.

By the way here are some links to a manual if anyone is interested.

http://www.audiovision.nl/downloads/dlahd1eng.pdf

http://www.jvcdig.com/manuals/DLA-RS1_english.pdf

GeorgeB

[benthx]

Hello Djos

Appologies accepted. You have shown a level of maturity and being honest about your incorrect remarks. This forum is all about bringing everyone together thats shares a common interest. We all hope we can help each other other out in the best way they can. No one wants to start a war of any description.

So as some of the other members has stated on the board and privately lets get back to busniess.

I should also mention that the warranty issue needs to be clarified. JVC currently offeres 1 year on this PJ. The lamp warranty is 3 months or 500 hours. I am togther with Justins ongoing help . Are negotiation with the supplier (projectisle) with cross communication with JVC to extend for the members of the powerbuy an additional period of ??? extended warranty.

As it stands some of the members have already paid their deposit and one paid in full.

The bulbs at cost as part of the powerbuy will be for a period of two years from the date of the PJ purchase. I am aware that you could purchase a bulb from price japan for about 100.00 less. The saving could be very quickly erroded by shipping back option if faulty. Let alone how they are being handled in transit.

Ok so lets roll on

Thanks for your support

Ben

[djOS]

Hello Djos

Appologies accepted.

---SNIP---