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Do not buy the Hotchip ODT-4000HD. With the DVI to HDMI on the Hitachi the picture is not compatible at 1080i, and buggy at 720p (requires resolution cycling). I have confirmed this on 2 separate STBs and Hitachis.

At 1080i the picture gets a purple wash and shakes. At 720p on some channels (esp ABC and SBS) the picture can shake, or miss every other frame. Cycling the resolution resolves this. Unfortunately it happens on every channel change.

Component and VGA is OK.

Is this fault of STB or the hitachi plasma?

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Is this fault of STB or the hitachi plasma?

It can't be proven either way.

The hotchip has caused a lot of compatibility problems for ppl but I haven't seen any reports of problems with the Hitachi so I put my money on the STB being the problem.

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I picked up my Hitachi 8800 yesterday and it looks great using the SH-Dt510 HD STB and a Zensonic Z500 :blink:

PS. Got the TV for $3250 from JBhifi Whitfords City in Perth. Awesome service and price.

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I picked up my Hitachi 8800 yesterday and it looks great using the SH-Dt510 HD STB and a Zensonic Z500 :blink:

PS. Got the TV for $3250 from JBhifi Whitfords City in Perth. Awesome service and price.

Glad you are happy with it, i got mine on sunday for 3500 on 24mnths interest free.

Still using DGTech 2000A HD STB, thinking about an upgrade soon altho most ppl seem to have more trouble than its worth with HDMI connected STB's, everying ok with the Pioneer box?

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Visually I haven't had any problems but I'm a newb so it might not be working right. I have it plugged in via HDMI so will it run at it's best when viewing a HD channel or do I need to do something with the Tv :blink: ?

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I picked up my Hitachi 8800 yesterday and it looks great using the SH-Dt510 HD STB and a Zensonic Z500 :P

PS. Got the TV for $3250 from JBhifi Whitfords City in Perth. Awesome service and price.

G'day all, after much reading through these forums i took the plunge today and picked up the 42pd8800ta today - i paid $3700 inc the extended 5 year warranty from jb hifi in osbourne park (Perth) and i am over the moon! Thanks to everyone who has posted in this thread for their feedback... :blink:

Regards

J.

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Hellooo

Ordered my Hitachi today, was told I would get it by the end of Feb.

Paid 4k neat for the TV and extended warranty. Considering I'm not in the city and I got this price locally I'm fairly happy.

I'm curious how the scaling works with the resolution being 1024 x 1024.

Does this mean that a 1080i signal would be scaled to 1024, and therefore the difference is minimal? Does the scaling crop 56 lines to scale 1080i to 1024 or is it something else.

And does this resolution play 720p without downscaling being that it has 1024 vertical lines?

Has anybody seen a true 1080i or 720p image and how does it compare to the 1024 x 1024 resoltion.

What I'm getting at is are we all going to be kicking ourselves in a years time when you can purchase TV's that do true 1080i or 720p images for the same price or is the 1024 resolution that close to the real thing that we won't notice the difference?

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The model they had two years ago cropped 1080 to 1024. I assume the current model does the same.

Peter, you are precisely right. The 8800 model crops 1080 lines to 1024 (and retains 16:9 aspect ratio), which is clearly discernable when using an HTPC outputting 1920 x 1080 in the video card's "native" (non-scaling) driver mode.

Jimbo,

A 1080i image, e.g. through 9HD, looks pretty good to me. I haven't seen 720p broadcast (that I can be absolutely sure was 720p) yet, but 1280 x 720p from an HTPC also scales reasonably well to 1024 x 1024 (though text will always suffer from imperfect alignment when scaled by less than a factor of 2 and this is visible on the display).

You should be aware that 1080i HD broadcast is not 1920 x 1080. Horizontal resolution is 1440 pixels, so horizontal scaling will occur anyway. There's plenty of information available in other forum threads on broadcast formats. (It's a whole other argument about horizontal scaling, where and to what quality that scaling occurs, channel bandwidth used and limitations of the MPEG2 codec in the Australian DVB-T system).

Although 1920 x 1080 LCDs are just starting to appear (they look very expensive to me), the 1080 line resolution is, IMHO, pointless, since TV's have always "overscanned" typically by about 5%, meaning that 5% of the picture falls outside the visible screen. This feature removed minor distortion at the edges of the picture inherent in the analogue broadcast/display system. TV program makers do not put any action or screen text in that outer 5% (often 10%) for that reason. That is, there's nothing to see out there. Cropping 1080 lines to 1024 is equivalent to about 5% overscan (vertically).

Blu-ray and HD-DVD may make 1920 x 1080 worthwhile, but I intend to wait and see.

My 2 cents' worth.

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Sorry for being so daft, but I just want to clarify.

Will it will basically just exclude 56 lines from the image and not have to scale the resolution? Thefore creating an image just as good as a genuine 1080i image, just with a few missing lines?

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Sorry for being so daft, but I just want to clarify.

Will it will basically just exclude 56 lines from the image and not have to scale the resolution? Thefore creating an image just as good as a genuine 1080i image, just with a few missing lines?

Yes, 56 lines are not displayed (and the equivalent horizontal pixels also are not displayed so as to retain 16:9 aspect ratio). The inner 1024 lines are mapped line-for-line to the 1024 lines of the Hitachi display.

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Hi,

After a recent failure of my LG Plasma I have a large credit at a JB Store. I can purchase a new Hitachi 8800 Plasma and a Pionner VSX-AX2AV HDMI Switching amp for roughly the same price as a new Pioneer 43", both situations will cost me a $200-300 $$$ ontop of my available credit.

I currently have a Pioneer VSX-811-s AMP which i am very happy with, but due to the various different components, with the LG I had to go back to cabling the componets direct to the Plasma and selecting the input source on the remote. Obviously without getting the HDMI switching AMP, I am still going to need to do that with the Hitachi panel.

My question is, is the Pioneer Plasma really worth the extra $$$ or is it much better value to upgrade my AMP to a HDMI etc and get the Hitachi Panel. I use the spare DVI\HDMI input on my LG for PC Gaming, so the Hitachi would suit with the spare HDMI - if I cannot use an spare AUX HDMI port on the new AMP.

How "good" is the 5 year extended warantee of JB HiFi. Does it compare with the Pioneer warantee?

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Hi,

After a recent failure of my LG Plasma I have a large credit at a JB Store. I can purchase a new Hitachi 8800 Plasma and a Pionner VSX-AX2AV HDMI Switching amp for roughly the same price as a new Pioneer 43", both situations will cost me a $200-300 $$$ ontop of my available credit.

I currently have a Pioneer VSX-811-s AMP which i am very happy with, but due to the various different components, with the LG I had to go back to cabling the componets direct to the Plasma and selecting the input source on the remote. Obviously without getting the HDMI switching AMP, I am still going to need to do that with the Hitachi panel.

My question is, is the Pioneer Plasma really worth the extra $$$ or is it much better value to upgrade my AMP to a HDMI etc and get the Hitachi Panel. I use the spare DVI\HDMI input on my LG for PC Gaming, so the Hitachi would suit with the spare HDMI - if I cannot use an spare AUX HDMI port on the new AMP.

How "good" is the 5 year extended warantee of JB HiFi. Does it compare with the Pioneer warantee?

Hitachi is a great panel. I cant see the value in going to the Pioneer. I use the 8800 with my PC and it is just great.

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Hi All,

Picked up my 8800 yesterday and I am very happy. Got it from JB East Keilor Vic ($3300) this was the best price i could find going around local stores.

Currently hooked into my HD STB (KAON) the 1080i signal is great. Not 100 percent sure with the screen settings yet. I have lowered the contrast and colour slightly to prevent any issues with screen burn etc..

Cheers,

JP

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Hitachi is a great panel. I cant see the value in going to the Pioneer. I use the 8800 with my PC and it is just great.

I was in the same boat, I finally went with the Hitachi as I will have use of the extra features over the Pana500A. I am very happy with it, currently running HDMI. My new Pioneer VSX-AX2AV-S (which converts all my Video inputs DVI (STB), Component (DVD), VCR (Composite) and PC (DVI) to a single HDMI input to the Hitachi.

The 8800 has only been on for about 30 mins so far and with no calibration it still looks pretty good. A good friend will calibrate it professionally in a few weeks and I reckon then it will just be outstanding.

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I have been looking at getting this plasma & getting a stb later on. I spoke to a salesman on saturday & he said it isn't worth getting the tv if you don't get a stb with it.

How true is this & does anyone have any recomendations for a stb?

He said he can do a deal ($4000 for the plamsa ext wty & stb) on a Hotchip stb (not sure on model) but I read that some people have had problems with this stb & plasma.

Great site so far. I still new to all this stuff.

Cheers

Nathan

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Got my 42" Hitachi on Saturday after waiting a month for stock to be delivered...and have to say the wait was worth it...simply amazing picture using settings from various forum members (although i prefer the normal colour temperature over the warm).

ps2 through component cables runs great.

the Hitachi looks great even turned off.

paid 3150 for the panel from David Jones and 300 for LG HDSTB (great box too BTW)

could not be happier with the panel...

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nope...the expensive extended warranty was $500 and ruined my price advantage but i simply trust their aftersales service more than the other box shifters...friends have had DJ's do the manufacturer berating themselves to replace panels...

i just price matched with JB Hifi to get my price and it was clear they don't read the forums...their $3999 including ext warranty sticker price they thought was cheap...

oh, and i paid cash...couldn't say what they are doing re: interest free periods etc...

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Thanks Gamblor, you got a keen price all the same. DJ's told me they would only do the warranty/interest deals on the sticker prices. At $3999- it seems more like a marketing exercise than a good price/deal promotion.

sounds like rubbish to me...they say they price match, so hold them to it...

i also recall the same price being offer using their store card and 24 months interest free...

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Does anyone have one of these paired with a Topfield 5000 PVRt? I was wondering what the picture quality was like and what type of connection you used - I'm assuming YUV?

thanks

John

I have a Topfield 4400 (same as 5000 PVRt, but no USB) connected to the Hitachi 8800. I tried using component cables (with a SCART>Component adaptor) and the PQ wasn't very good (greenish tinge). Connected with s-video, it looks superb.

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hey guys... i'm new to these forums... but i was just wondering, with the 8800, is there a way to check what input signal is being displayed? i've got the LG9921 dvd player and was wondering if the HDCP hack is working and that my DVDs are being displayed at either 720p or 1080i...

the player itself doesn't display the output signal... so i was wondering if i could possibly check via the Hitachi...

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:P wow, I honestly wasn't expecting this many replies and feedbacks, thank you guys for your effort, in the lights of what many has to comment about this PDP (the 8800TA). I felt it is perhaps a suitable time to give it a serious consideration.

:P I live in Melbourne, having not properly doing my research on the plasma tv lately, Im afraid Im illy informed on prices. so I guess my only concern is .... where exactly could I find the best deals on a 8800 ??? someone please enlighten me :blink:

Again deep thanks to "Lasty" your enthusiasm over this matter has deeply motivated me :P

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I have been looking at getting this plasma & getting a stb later on. I spoke to a salesman on saturday & he said it isn't worth getting the tv if you don't get a stb with it.

How true is this & does anyone have any recomendations for a stb?

He said he can do a deal ($4000 for the plamsa ext wty & stb) on a Hotchip stb (not sure on model) but I read that some people have had problems with this stb & plasma.

Great site so far. I still new to all this stuff.

Cheers

Nathan

Does anyone have any answers that could help?

Thanks

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Most people on this forum would have a STB (either SD or HD) so we would agree with the salesguy. The question is more what type of stb do you get, and do you need a PVR? For me, PVR functionality is more important so I got an SD PVR. Others would get an HD STB to go with this TV. Personally I'm waiting for a decent HD PVR!

cheers,

John

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:P wow, I honestly wasn't expecting this many replies and feedbacks, thank you guys for your effort, in the lights of what many has to comment about this PDP (the 8800TA). I felt it is perhaps a suitable time to give it a serious consideration.

:P I live in Melbourne, having not properly doing my research on the plasma tv lately, Im afraid Im illy informed on prices. so I guess my only concern is .... where exactly could I find the best deals on a 8800 ??? someone please enlighten me :blink:

Again deep thanks to "Lasty" your enthusiasm over this matter has deeply motivated me :P

Hey Ivalice.

Go and see David at Clive Peeters in Moorabbin.

I paid $3500 for mine on 24months interest free, and then i think 469 for extended warranty, for $3969 all up.

They were really good with service and very friendly, and if you arent wanting interest free then you can bargain some more.

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I have multiple inputs coming into this TV. I'm trying to get audio out to connect to my amp but I don't seem to get any sound. Any ideas?

cheers,

John

John, I'm only new here so please excuse me if the following is common knowledge:

If you are talking about getting audio out of the screen via "Monitor Out" then this will only work for equipment connected through S-Video or Composite inputs. (See top page 15 User Manual). I've got no idea why it doesn't work for Component.

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John, I'm only new here so please excuse me if the following is common knowledge:

If you are talking about getting audio out of the screen via "Monitor Out" then this will only work for equipment connected through S-Video or Composite inputs. (See top page 15 User Manual). I've got no idea why it doesn't work for Component.

Bugger!! Thanks for the info - You know, I did "read" that section but the brain filtered out "composite" and only saw "AV1-AV5" and as I was connected to AV1 (via component) I thought it was ok :blink: It does seem like a limitation to me - I can connect directly to the amp but it's not an A/V receiver and doesn't have a lot of inputs, so connecting other devices to the TV might be an issue...

Thanks again,

John

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Hi All,

Looks like my insurance company will be providing this screen to replace a stolen 37PD5000ta. I'm just curious about a few things:

1) I see that it has twin HDMI inputs, does this mean that it's HDCP enabled? hence, compatible with Bluray & HD-DVD etc

2) People have been discussing the tweaks required to get the picture looking fab, are these compiled somewhere?

3) Is there someway I can secure it so I doesn't go walkabout like the last one?

Thanks for reading my 1st post! cheers.

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Hey all. Have been watching the price of this panel for months and previously was quoted $3850 for panel and extended warranty. Have been an absolute pain in the butt to my local retailers, but today finally took the plunge. Hardly Normal Chadstone of all places $3200 panel + $400 extended warranty = $3600 cash/credit. Best price I have personally found and was most impressed. Those credit cards could not get out of my wallet any quick enough!! :blink:

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Just wanted to say I purchased the 42 PD8800TA last week and coupled it with a Toshiba HD-C26h as I wanted a HDMI-HDMI connection - still can't get the smile off my face.

PQ is fantastic and swivel base feature alone is worth every cent ( especially as I am in a room with windows on N and W sides so it greatly help reduce glare off the panel.

Only wish I could have extended the budget to get the 55" but that money will go towards a HD-PVR whenever one is released.

Must say , the best thing about this forum has been reading the feedback of other users ( and also those of other makes ) and then comparing them in a showroom side by side.

Once a decision had been made, the negotiating was easy - when one couldn't be bamboozled by salesman trying to peddle surplus stock.

Still think the Plasmas represent excellent bang for buck cf. LCD's until the SED become readily available.

Tx all,

DocBalls

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Just wanted to say I purchased the 42 PD8800TA last week and coupled it with a Toshiba HD-C26h as I wanted a HDMI-HDMI connection - still can't get the smile off my face.

PQ is fantastic and swivel base feature alone is worth every cent ( especially as I am in a room with windows on N and W sides so it greatly help reduce glare off the panel.

Only wish I could have extended the budget to get the 55" but that money will go towards a HD-PVR whenever one is released.

Must say , the best thing about this forum has been reading the feedback of other users ( and also those of other makes ) and then comparing them in a showroom side by side.

Once a decision had been made, the negotiating was easy - when one couldn't be bamboozled by salesman trying to peddle surplus stock.

Still think the Plasmas represent excellent bang for buck cf. LCD's until the SED become readily available.

Tx all,

DocBalls

Congratulations on your purchase. I have the same setup (8800 & HD-C26H STB) and I am also very impressed with the picture since the day I fired it all up.

Hope you may enjoy it as much as we have.

Cheers

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PQ is fantastic and swivel base feature alone is worth every cent ( especially as I am in a room with windows on N and W sides so it greatly help reduce glare off the panel.

Only wish I could have extended the budget to get the 55" but that money will go towards a HD-PVR whenever one is released.

Yep, fully agree - I have an odd-shaped room and the swivel allows me to adjust it to where I'm sitting.

Still think the Plasmas represent excellent bang for buck cf. LCD's until the SED become readily available.
Yep - especially the 42" market.

cheers,

John

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Has anyone tried using the RGB port on the back of the 8800 ? I've plugged my laptop in and the quality looks really bad. What is the ideal resolution I should run?

I dropped i down to 1024x768 and it looked OK.

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Hi docballs/JanDG,

I'm new and from Singapore. Saw yr postings that you have connected DVD to 8800TA via HDMI. So hope you can ans my first question. Thanks.

I'm planning to buy a 42" Plasma and after weeks of comparison among Pioneer, Panansonics and Hitachi and reading this forum (thanks all 8800TA owners), I've decided to buy 42PD8800TA. However, I've 2 questions:

1) Hitachi Singapore spec states: HDMI 1 (Video) ; HDMI 2 (Video) + 3.5mm Stereo Mini Jack

- I thought HDMI carrys Video and Audio (The High-Definition Multi-media Interface (HDMI) is an industry-supported, uncompressed, all-digital audio/video interface). Does that mean that this plasma will not accept digital audio?

2) I searched the net and could only find the product manual (catalog) in Hong Kong Web. Is this applicable to the 8800TA in Singapore? Where can I get the Singapore 8800TA catalog?

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Hi docballs/JanDG,

I'm new and from Singapore. Saw yr postings that you have connected DVD to 8800TA via HDMI. So hope you can ans my first question. Thanks.

I'm planning to buy a 42" Plasma and after weeks of comparison among Pioneer, Panansonics and Hitachi and reading this forum (thanks all 8800TA owners), I've decided to buy 42PD8800TA. However, I've 2 questions:

1) Hitachi Singapore spec states: HDMI 1 (Video) ; HDMI 2 (Video) + 3.5mm Stereo Mini Jack

- I thought HDMI carrys Video and Audio (The High-Definition Multi-media Interface (HDMI) is an industry-supported, uncompressed, all-digital audio/video interface). Does that mean that this plasma will not accept digital audio?

2) I searched the net and could only find the product manual (catalog) in Hong Kong Web. Is this applicable to the 8800TA in Singapore? Where can I get the Singapore 8800TA catalog?

Mini-jack is for when a dvi-hdmi cable is used (i go dvi from my LG5100 stb to the hdmi on the hitachi) allows audio from the hitachi's speakers and then just pass an optical audio cable to the surround receiver...hdmi-hdmi delivers digital audio on both though (like my dvd player)

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