Shuguang Treasure series of Valves

[Gav]

For those of you who are looking to try some Valve rolling here is a reletivly new line of valves from Shuguang, they are dearer than the normal range of Shuguang but are according to reviews very good.

Review from Enjoy the Music .com on the KT88-Z

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0509/shuguang_treasure_series_6CA7_kt88.htm

Shuguang Tresure series there may be others available but I know they do these

300B-Z

CV181-Z

6Ca7-Z

2A3C-Z

KT88-Z

KT66-Z

I have been scouring the net lately looking for some replacement KT88 valves for M88Q's , In the end I decided not to go the way of NOS KT88's as they are to expensive and you dont realy know what you are getting unless you buy from a reputable dealer so my thoughts lent towards current production new valves, where I stumbled on the new Shuguangs, so I have sourced some from eBay and have taken the plunge and am going to try the KT88-Z, hopefully they will arrive in good nick with out any added charges from any local authorities

I got mine from this eBayer http://shop.ebay.com.au/joechenliang/m.html

Edited August 14, 2009 by Gav

[djb]

thanks 4 the info

u should b pleased

i run their standard 300b 98 in my weston time machine

fine tube excellent 4 the price

i will check these out

david

[tuyen]

have heard good things about these too. keen to know how you find them!

Tuyen

[djb]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Matched-Pair-Shuguang-Treasure-300B-Z-Vacuum-Tube-New_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem23021cab05QQitemZ150359288581QQptZVintageQ5fElectronicsQ5fR2QQsalenotsupported

here r some on ebay they r NOT cheap

[Gav]

And that guy sellls them cheeper than others on eBay, one in particular from USA or Canada .

The KT88-Z's are $224au a pair

I actually paid about $847 for 2 matched quads delivered.

Edited August 14, 2009 by Gav

[Chickenism]

Was talking to Earle about these only yesterday and will be checking on the internet buzz over the next few months to see how these shape up; my interest is with the CV181-Z pre-amp valve.

Was doing a quick spot of Googling and came across these:

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?accstube&1253037084

Blue glass prototypes of the CV181. Not cheap, but they look great...

[Once was an audiophile]

For those of you who are looking to try some Valve rolling here is a reletivly new line of valves from Shuguang, they are dearer than the normal range of Shuguang but are according to reviews very good.

Review from Enjoy the Music .com on the KT88-Z

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0509/shuguang_treasure_series_6CA7_kt88.htm

Shuguang Tresure series there may be others available but I know they do these

300B-Z

CV181-Z

6Ca7-Z

2A3C-Z

KT88-Z

KT66-Z

I have been scouring the net lately looking for some replacement KT88 valves for M88Q's , In the end I decided not to go the way of NOS KT88's as they are to expensive and you dont realy know what you are getting unless you buy from a reputable dealer so my thoughts lent towards current production new valves, where I stumbled on the new Shuguangs, so I have sourced some from eBay and have taken the plunge and am going to try the KT88-Z, hopefully they will arrive in good nick with out any added charges from any local authorities

a good friend of mine bought some for his kt88 mono blocks,to replace the golden lion reissues.my first inpressions were that they have more weight and sound more like music,more natural smoother,i will write more as they are burning in still.as they play longer they develop more musicality.very good so far impressed.

[Gav]

a good friend of mine bought some for his kt88 mono blocks,to replace the golden lion reissues.my first inpressions were that they have more weight and sound more like music,more natural smoother,i will write more as they are burning in still.as they play longer they develop more musicality.very good so far impressed.

That would be great if you can keep us informed to the progress during the Burn In which is supposed to be about 300HR ( People with ideas on Burn In need not apply LOL ) mine are said to be on their way, Which KT88 mono's dose your friend have.

Why do I get nervouse and get little sleep while I'm waiting for somthing fragile to arrive from OS

[Once was an audiophile]

That would be great if you can keep us informed to the progress during the Burn In which is supposed to be about 300HR ( People with ideas on Burn In need not apply LOL ) mine are said to be on their way, Which KT88 mono's dose your friend have.

Why do I get nervouse and get little sleep while I'm waiting for somthing fragile to arrive from OS

his mono blocks are custom made. only one pair made.they use a dedicated power supply (5 rectification valves) nothing like that is made in the commercial market.19 valves in the whole complete amplifier.its just a brilliant and musical amplifier which i wish, i would of bought my self as a spare.my is similar but uses 8xel34 for output.

i will inform as it burns in.

[Gav]

his mono blocks are custom made. only one pair made.they use a dedicated power supply (5 rectification valves) nothing like that is made in the commercial market.19 valves in the whole complete amplifier.its just a brilliant and musical amplifier which i wish, i would of bought my self as a spare.my is similar but uses 8xel34 for output.

i will inform as it burns in.

Sounds nice.

Are you thinking of trying the 6Ca7-Z I think it is a EL34 equivelent, I could be wrong though.

[NT3]

Thanks Gav for putting this up. Lovely looking valves, real art. Wish I had the money:D

[Once was an audiophile]

Sounds nice.

Are you thinking of trying the 6Ca7-Z I think it is a EL34 equivelent, I could be wrong though.

i am thinking very hard as i need 8 el34 it will not be cheap.

depends how generous kevin rudd is with my tax return.

[tuyen]

$230US a pair for the EL34. Not a cheap exercise just to see how they sound like. I'd say stick to your current tubes kajak. The sonic characteristics of your setup now is pretty much spot on already (in my books anyway)

[Once was an audiophile]

$230US a pair for the EL34. Not a cheap exercise just to see how they sound like. I'd say stick to your current tubes kajak. The sonic characteristics of your setup now is pretty much spot on already (in my books anyway)

you should know tuyen that i will stop when i am dead,their is always room for improvement,just changed my chokes on the power supply,my soundstage is more open and more timbers!!!!!!.chokes weigh in about a 1.2kg.

[Gav]

$230US a pair for the EL34. Not a cheap exercise just to see how they sound like. I'd say stick to your current tubes kajak. The sonic characteristics of your setup now is pretty much spot on already (in my books anyway)

You can get them a bit cheeper than that, from the eBayer I am getting mine from at the moment are $199 AU a pair and as I did I told him I needed 8 he gave me another 5% of + free shipping with DHL

[djb]

TUYEN

I AGREE

My query/interest was for when i replace worn out valves

with a9x on this ine

there is little value/variation to be had from tube rolling

djb

[Once was an audiophile]

TUYEN

I AGREE

My query/interest was for when i replace worn out valves

with a9x on this ine

there is little value/variation to be had from tube rolling

djb

just try it yourself,some people cant hear a diffrence but others can.system depended.tuyen heard the diffrence between e88cc tesla and e88cc amprex usa at my house, he likes amprex usa e88cc(so do i).

[Once was an audiophile]

You can get them a bit cheeper than that, from the eBayer I am getting mine from at the moment are $199 AU a pair and as I did I told him I needed 8 he gave me another 5% of + free shipping with DHL

make sure they are the real thing not copies!!!!!!

[djb]

make sure they r the real thing'

HOW

[Gav]

make sure they are the real thing not copies!!!!!!

Well I hope they are the real deal,

My only real evidence is that plenty have baught from where I am getting them and his feedback is 100% and most of the coments are giving nothing but praise for the Tubes and the seller.

[Once was an audiophile]

make sure they r the real thing'

HOW

good question they like to copy in china

the other important thing is how long will the tubes last.will they last as long as the old mullard type or amprex.

[ehtcom]

TUYEN

I AGREE

My query/interest was for when i replace worn out valves

with a9x on this ine

there is little value/variation to be had from tube rolling

djb

Hi David.

Remember those TJ300B Mesh-plate. You really liked them.....

Cheers, Earle.

PS, the Turnberry's need some work.

[djb]

earle

i hadnt forgotten the tj !

remind me how do their prices compare to these/

would need 2 know a lot more reviews b4 i bought these

kajak

yes i know -i can hear a difference the question 4 me is their worth [on a tight budget].

as with wine i can tell the difference btween a burgundy 1st growth

but can i afford to drrink them?is i bottle worth 4 bottles of equivalent bordeaux?

the answer is budget driven and a mix of quality and quantity with wine and audio

a set or 2 of western electric 845 or 300b could buy me another 2 watt set amplifier

providing a different sound choice or another first class system!

given the options tube rolling falls of MY list

each to their own

david

[Once was an audiophile]

earle

i hadnt forgotten the tj !

remind me how do their prices compare to these/

would need 2 know a lot more reviews b4 i bought these

kajak

yes i know -i can hear a difference the question 4 me is their worth [on a tight budget].

as with wine i can tell the difference btween a burgundy 1st growth

but can i afford to drrink them?is i bottle worth 4 bottles of equivalent bordeaux?

the answer is budget driven and a mix of quality and quantity with wine and audio

a set or 2 of western electric 845 or 300b could buy me another 2 watt set amplifier

providing a different sound choice or another first class system!

given the options tube rolling falls of MY list

each to their own

david

i am wondering myself is it worth it.as i can change decoupling caps and get a diffrent sound aswell.

give it time and more reviews will be available

[Guest]

Hi David.

Remember those TJ300B Mesh-plate.

When are TJ and Shuguang going to make a true mesh plate like the old Alesa Viac & KR .

Cheers