marty007 Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 I have a TEAC DBV 420 STB and wish to connect via the SCART connection to YPrPb connection on my Panasonic Television. The Teac people tell me that they are easily available BUT I can not find anywhere that sells such a cable. Some of the shops just look at me with a blank look........ Can anyone help ???? Thanks in anticipation.
Seak Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 http://www.crestonline.biz/product.php?PHP...&txtSearch=psa3
gclark8 Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 NC 2433 SCART-> component NC 2613 SCART-> component + audio from Neotech, Avico, http://estore.avico.com.au
mungo brush Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 If you want "true" component, then you will need a SCART-Component converter, and a "fully wired" SCART cable. I got both from Len Wallis in Lane Cove - total cost about $280.
dvduser Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 Check out www.australiandigitaltv.com.au aka Hantrex. They do the SCART-SCART fully wired for $12 and a RGB-Component converter for $119.
pneu Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 What's the difference between a normal SCART to component connection and a "fully wired" one? It's interesting that you should mention it though, because I tried a SCART-component adaptor from Tandy and noticed the picture quality was poorer than the SCART-component cable (+3 A/V cables) I was using earlier. I have since gone back to the SCART-component cable and the sharpness and colour look a lot better. Strange...
mungo brush Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 I was told that whilst there is only one plug, there are many possible wiring configurations. I went from s-video to SCART/RGB-component (via the converter) on my DVD player and noticed a significant improvement in PQ. Len Wallis are recommending this set-up for the best PQ on Foxtel configurations.
cyril Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 If you want "true" component, then you will need a SCART-Component converter, and a "fully wired" SCART cable.I got both from Len Wallis in Lane Cove - total cost about $280. With respect to the TEAC-420, it outputs Component YCrCb or RGB from it's SCART output if selected. This is "true" component, if you add an RGB-Component converter you will only add a further process that will reduce the quality. For Foxtel at this point a RGB-Component converter is required untill Foxtel allow Component (YCrCb) to be output direct from the box just as the TEAC-420 allows. Regards Cyril
Tahoma Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 marty007 Wiring a SCART plug to RCA plugs to carry component video from TEAC 420 DTV Receiver. PIN 5 BLUE GROUND PIN 9 GREEN GROUND PIN 13 RED GROUND PIN 7 BLUE SIGNAL PIN 11 GREEN SIGNAL PIN 15 RED SIGNAL Also can carry composite video PIN 17 video ground, PIN 19 video signal Stereo audio is carried. PIN 1 Right audio channel PIN 3 Left audio channel PIN 4 common audio ground It seems difficult tto purchase such a cable. See if you can have a local electronic repair shop- make one up for you, or you may have a friend who can use a soldering iron. it's not difficult. Regards Tahoma
BoSe Posted October 10, 2004 Posted October 10, 2004 I have the same box and purchased the connector at DSE. http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefro...duct/View/P6676
pneu Posted October 11, 2004 Posted October 11, 2004 Bose, that is the scart adapter I used and I got significantly poorer PQ through it. I would recommend getting a gold-plated SCART-component + 3A/V cable (mine is a MAXCABLE) because the PQ is about 33% better, especially noticable with the colours. I don't know why it would make any difference since the wiring should be the same as with the adapter. There seems to be some confusion about the difference between RGB and Component Video (YUV, YPbPr, YCbCr, whatever you wanna call it). To my knowledge RGB is a different set of pins on the SCART adapter and carries Red Green and Blue information and provides the highest possible picture quality. Component Video, as I understand it, is Chrominance, Luminance and something else...can't remember. So why do people think RGB and Component Video are the same thing? Is it cause the cables are coloured R, G and B? Or are they actually the same thing? Just a note on the DV-B420, I think it needs to have the sound channels reversed. Using the SCART cable I noticed L&R are switched and needed to swap cables around. Either the cable is wired wrongly or the STB's software is incorrect. Haven't tested the STB's RCA audio outs.,..anyone noticed this?
cyril Posted October 11, 2004 Posted October 11, 2004 Ikari, RGB and YUV Component are both component video signals, but the latter is a matrix of the former. Camera pickups, and Display deivces are inherently RGB, MPEG and most video processing methods are YUV, and for very sound reasons. SCART was never designed to carry YUV only RGB, however there is no reason why not, hence many STB's now transport YUV via SCART. In this situation the SCART connector carries Y on the G, U on the R and V on the B channels. composite video is also sent on the SCART regardless of RGB or YUV being sent. When RGB is sent the Composite feed is required to carry Sync info, when YUV is sent, Sync is also sent on the Y channel. Regards Cyril
tonymy01 Posted October 11, 2004 Posted October 11, 2004 Yep, so if the DVD player/STB supports YUV over SCART, and the TV does the same, then definitely a fully wired scart-scart cable is going to do the trick just fine (although if both have scart, then both are likely to support RGB, so this is the better connection to go with I reckon). Regards
JasonBB Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 I used the DSE scart to component adapter from my toppy and was happy with the picture quality, I went ahead and brought the Hantrex RGB to component converter and fitted it. Beware remember to change the signal in the toppy menu before changing, I went ahead and fitted the converter and couldn't get a picture (I made a mental note to change it before hand), I looked in the toppy manual to try and get through the menu and change the output blind, so 30 minutes of swearing later and switching back to the adapter I got a s-video cable, got a picture back, changed it then fitted the converter again. It was a major pain in the arse for a simple job but using this converter and the toppy's RGB output the picture was more vibrant.
pneu Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 Yes, it's the same with the DV-B420. I've since learned to do it blind I can even do a factory reset and manual tune blind HOW COOL AM I!!!
jpmccorm Posted October 14, 2004 Posted October 14, 2004 I have seen a 3 metre SCART-YPrPb video/L-R audio cable in JB Hi-Fi. Can't remember what the price is.
andczo Posted October 14, 2004 Posted October 14, 2004 Has anyone seen a cable that is capable of going the other way?? ie RGB or component YUV to SCART??
SharP Posted October 15, 2004 Posted October 15, 2004 Has anyone seen a cable that is capable of going the other way?? ie RGB or component YUV to SCART?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have crest's scart to YUV+Audio cable. it can also work the way you want. It's got a switch on the scart plug to set the direction. I'm loving this cable, it's cheap and picture quality is excellent.
cyril Posted October 15, 2004 Posted October 15, 2004 There is no direction with respect to the RGB or UYV channels, only the composite feeds, which are not used when using YUV. Regards Cyril
RodN Posted October 15, 2004 Posted October 15, 2004 Just moving on with this - I have not been able to find any DVD Burners that have YPbPr IN, that's IN (not out, they all have component out). They all only seem to have composite, svid or SCART IN. Now I'm thinking with this cable, does anyone know of any of the dvd recorders out there that allow YPbPr over scart IN? This has been a big downside for me, not being able to record over component has stopped me buying one. It would be nice to have a fix for it!
andczo Posted October 15, 2004 Posted October 15, 2004 Yamaha DRX1 and the Philips ??75 both have component IN!!
SharP Posted October 16, 2004 Posted October 16, 2004 andczo, This is the one I have. http://www.crestonline.biz/product.php?prodcode=XVSL700 But it is extremely difficult to find. Most of the department stores (harvey norman, bing lee, retravision, etc) don't have this cable in their product list. So they don't order it for you. The only store that can order this cable from crest is "GOOD GUYS". it takes around a week to get it in. I don't really remember how much I paid but i was arround $20 -$25. Hope this helps Cheers
Santa1503559644 Posted October 16, 2004 Posted October 16, 2004 Jaycar carry SCART2xxxxx cables, including the better ones and the crappy ones. I've got "crest" stuff from RetraVision, btw. I cant remember the brand of scart-to-3rgb (same as component, of course), but I've got a similar scart-to-6rgb from the same brand (the names a pun or wordplay, from memory) which is quite a decent cable. Do you need the audio connection from the SCART, or can you use a separate (better quality, anyway) connection? If you can use the separate audio, then the scart-to-3rgb is a good choice, IMNSHO. {BTW: That brand may also do a scart-to-3rgb+2audio, but I cant remember - all I recall in that dept was the cheapo scart-to-5rca stuff}
pneu Posted October 16, 2004 Posted October 16, 2004 Just moving on with this - I have not been able to find any DVD Burners that have YPbPr IN, that's IN (not out, they all have component out). They all only seem to have composite, svid or SCART IN.Now I'm thinking with this cable, does anyone know of any of the dvd recorders out there that allow YPbPr over scart IN? This has been a big downside for me, not being able to record over component has stopped me buying one. It would be nice to have a fix for it! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What's wrong with SCART in? The SCART input should be able to carry component video which is why its a versatile connection. Is it just that you don't want to buy another SCART to SCART cable? There are a lot of reasons though why buying a DVD recorder is pointless.
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