Topdog Posted October 8, 2004 Posted October 8, 2004 Just watching the Friday practice session and can only describe it as great. TEAC 76cm WS(TEAC DVB400 SD/STB), no problems at all with PQ. The main straight Skycam picture is excellent, nothing like their early AFL attempts. They seem to have got the colour etc. spot on, even when compared to the normal cameras. They claim it can hit speeds up to 120 KPH, hope it doesn't jump the cable.. HD, who needs it?? How are others seeing it sofar???
kenneth1503559512 Posted October 8, 2004 Posted October 8, 2004 Where's Barthust? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Near Orange.
blip Posted October 8, 2004 Posted October 8, 2004 Where's Barthust? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Near Orange. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Closer to Millthorpe
Topdog Posted October 8, 2004 Author Posted October 8, 2004 WHOOPS Yep, it was still spelt "Bathurst" when I was there a couple of years ago and we did our hot lap in the Camry(V6) in around 20 minutes....One lap around there gave me a whole new perspective on just how little room those guys have to work in...If you haven't done it and are in the vicinity I can recommend it, just watch out for the radars..
Santa1503559644 Posted October 8, 2004 Posted October 8, 2004 I did a "cold lap" a few years back - unfortunately it was the first time this West Australian had been there, and I'd just driven out from Sydney and had to return almost imediately - so I only had time for one lap. And to make matters worse, it was not a Falcon, but a little hire car. So, since I'd never been there before, didn't know about likely radar positions etc, I limited myself to roughly twice the speed limit! Still fun though! Mighty tight squeeze on the way up - the cameras really make it look wider (and with little car puffing wildly to get up to anything like 100 on the quite steep climb), and well and truly self-imposed-speed-limited on the way down, but that straight is magic!
BigBobOz Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 I'm watching it now and broadcast quality is crap. mpeg artifacts everywhere! What the hell is channel 10 doing I usually find them to be good
blairy Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 Where's Barthust? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> between Orrrange and Lirrrthgow....
blairy Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 I did a "cold lap" a few years back - ...And to make matters worse, it was not a Falcon, but a little hire car...since I'd never been there before, didn't know about likely radar positions etc, I limited myself to roughly twice the speed limit... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A few years ago I did a couple of laps. Forget the little hire car, I was on a Ducati F1 750. Like Santa I knew nothing about the radar traps. Lucky for me it was pouring with rain (and I do mean pouring). The boys in blue decided to stay home that day. Big dipper drops off so suddenly you're riding through air with mountain walls either side of you. Straight too is awesome (although now kinked). Went past a mate on the straight. Later discovered he was doing over 210KPH. No idea how fast I was going and even less of a clue of how I shed enough speed to get around the bend at the end blairy (aka bloody idiot )
blairy Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 I'm watching it now and broadcast quality is crap.mpeg artifacts everywhere! What the hell is channel 10 doing I usually find them to be good <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm watching too. PQ is good although not brilliant. CH7 spring carnival (in WS surprise surprise) is a better PQ. CH 10 broadcast seems to be 14:9 (not 16:9) which is typical of their motor sports coverage over the last twelve months or so. I quite often experience the difficulties you mention with 10, although right now it's OK.
Master of the Obvious Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 I'm watching it now and broadcast quality is crap.mpeg artifacts everywhere! What the hell is channel 10 doing I usually find them to be good <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've always found 10's motorsport PQ to be pretty bad. In fact I find that most sport broadcast have a shocking PQ.
Topdog Posted October 9, 2004 Author Posted October 9, 2004 What type of displays are you guys watching? I am aware plasmas (all or some) have problems with pictures moving across the screens, it was something I noticed on sets on display in shops. It's one reason, apart from the price, I postponed any thought of buying one. I think that they still have long way to go with development yet... I'm watching on a 76cm CRT WS and the only distortions I can see are some flaring when they have the air con. grills showing in the background on inside the pits shots and shimmering from heat haze and hot exhausts with long shots, otherwise it's almost like looking out of a window overlooking the track and this is on Standard Definition.. I was born and bred in NSW and lived there for 47+ years before moving to Perth in 89. The first and maybe the only time I ever went to Bathurst was on the return trip 2 years ago after visiting family and friends in Sydney and Melbourne and we decided to include it in our trip. Up till then, the furthest west I had been in NSW was Lithgow. I don't really know why.
BigBobOz Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 I'm using a 80cm Sharp LCD, and the bad PQ that I'm talking about isn't blue or anything like that but mpeg artifacts which if you've mucked around with a lot of mpeg encoding you recognise very quickly. It was definitely encoding artifacts. I don't understand why but with plasma's and LCD's they seem to be more visible than with CRT tv's... ...although now I think about it, they're also more obvious on higher res computer CRTs... something with CRT tv's that hides them I've found. My dodgy (low bit rate) SVCD creations always looked good on my old TV Rob
mungo brush Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 A few years ago I did a couple of laps. Forget the little hire car, I was on a Ducati F1 750. I've done it in a Pajero. With my 2 kids on board. They weren't impressed. I can, however, confirm, that if you actually go and see the race live, that you won't see any motion artifacts. But you will have trouble getting a decent coffee.
Chris_S Posted October 10, 2004 Posted October 10, 2004 I watching it on ch12 (10hd) and I can see a big increase in quality when viewing up close. Only problem the scrolling race position bar overscans slightly compared to ch1. I have a Sony KVHR36 and Toshiba S23a.
apfsds-t Posted October 10, 2004 Posted October 10, 2004 I watching it on ch12 (10hd) and I can see a big increase in quality when viewing up close. Only problem the scrolling race position bar overscans slightly compared to ch1.I have a Sony KVHR36 and Toshiba S23a. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The race bar position should be fixed now. It was 'technically' ok, but apparently a few people were experiencing it being clipped slighty. Thanks for the feedback.
timj Posted October 10, 2004 Posted October 10, 2004 I'm glad someone picked up on the point of my reply.I know where Bathurst is, but hadn't heard of Barthust. On another issue,why do some people pronounce it "Bath-hurst"?
apfsds-t Posted October 10, 2004 Posted October 10, 2004 On another issue,why do some people pronounce it "Bath-hurst"? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I dunno - why is it an "alection" not Election or "Bar-ron bay" instead of Byron Bay, and 'Specific" not Pacific. Because people these days are lazy? - but it annoys me. I had a guy on the phone from England looking for some "Barth-Hurst"
PaulP33 Posted October 11, 2004 Posted October 11, 2004 A few years ago I did a couple of laps. Forget the little hire car, I was on a Ducati F1 750. I've done it in a Pajero. With my 2 kids on board. They weren't impressed. I can, however, confirm, that if you actually go and see the race live, that you won't see any motion artifacts. But you will have trouble getting a decent coffee. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think 2/3 of the crowd probably do suffer from motion artifacts by Sunday and not only can't you get decent coffee but you will probably get your car torched in the bargain. My brother said that the behaviour up there on Saturday night was atrocious.
Topdog Posted October 11, 2004 Author Posted October 11, 2004 Well I did correct it and aplogise for my Lysdexic keyboard...
Guest map Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 About cold laps .. many years ago, I think I was still a Technical Director, I went for a ride with Alan Moffatt, well he drove - and I lay on the floor on the pass.side of an early Falcon and shot some 16mm film .. thats FILM ( remember that??) and I think I just about defied gravity going down thru' the esses .. I was a real mess when they got me out of the position that I ended up in. Those were the days of development of the Emmy award winning race-cam systems .. still in business supplying terrific little cameras for things like swimming and diving at the Olympics.
Guest map Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 About cold laps .. many years ago, I think I was still a Technical Director, I went for a ride with Alan Moffatt, well he drove - and I lay on the floor on the pass.side of an early Falcon and shot some 16mm film .. thats FILM ( remember that??) and I think I just about defied gravity going down thru' the esses .. I was a real mess when they got me out of the position that I ended up in. Those were the days of development of the Emmy award winning race-cam systems .. still in business supplying terrific little cameras for things like swimming and diving at the Olympics.
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