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Just wondering.

I'm planning on getting Foxtel Digital via cable.

I know foxtel only supplies digital feeds of Nine, ABC and SBS. But does it transmit analogue feeds of Seven and Ten?

Cheers,

Ben

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Yes, but the quality really does suck, being analogue relays.

Also, The epg you use to see whats on & program for shows does not show seven & ten,.

Hope they wise up soon & join the party, because since i have had foxtel on , the only time i watched 7 was for the olympics.

Brett

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You only get 4:3 retransmissions of analogue 7 and 10.

The quality is better than analogue Foxtel's retransmissions of those channels, but a long way short of watching them on digital FTA.

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You only get 4:3 retransmissions of analogue 7 and 10.

The quality is better than analogue Foxtel's retransmissions of those channels, but  a long way short of watching them on digital FTA.

I just spoke to a Foxtel sales consultant and they advised that via cable all channels are delivered via digital , its only via satalite that 7 & 10 are analog. Did she sell me a line??

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I just spoke to a Foxtel sales consultant and they advised that via cable all channels are delivered via digital , its only via satalite that 7 & 10 are analog. Did she sell me a line??

She sure did. Only SBS and Nine are transmitted anywhere via Foxtel Satellite. Nine, ABC and SBS are on cable plus analogue 7 and 10. The foxtel chick doesn't know what she is talking about.

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I just spoke to a Foxtel sales consultant and they advised that via cable all channels are delivered via digital , its only via satalite that 7 & 10 are analog. Did she sell me a line??

She sure did. Only SBS and Nine are transmitted anywhere via Foxtel Satellite. Nine, ABC and SBS are on cable plus analogue 7 and 10. The foxtel chick doesn't know what she is talking about.

I'll try and be clearer.

When you have Foxtel cable the signal that is transmitted down the cable is either encoded using analogue (ordinary Foxtel) or digital (digital Foxtel) means. With analogue encoding some degree of signal degradation is inevitable, the picture your STB receives is never as good as the picture sent from Foxtel, and you don't get goodies like widescreen or digital sound.

If you have digital Foxtel then all of the channels sent to you are encoded digitally. This produces better picture quality because there shouldnt be any loss of information when the signal travels down the cable.

When it comes to the retransmission of the FTA channels the difference between 2/SBS/9 and 7/10 is that the source material in the first case is the digital versions of 2/SBS/9 (including widescreen and digital sound when transmitted) while for 7/10 its the analogue versions.

Or in other words:

2/SBS/9 = digital retransmission of digital source

7/10 = digital retransmission of analogue source

The digital retransmission of 7/10 cannot produce a better picture quality than the original analogue source, as received by Foxtel from the TV station (garbage in- garbage out) but it is a bit better than watching an analogue transmission of analogue source (like via analogue FTA or analogue Foxtel) because there is no further signal degradation during the retransmission.

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People here are saying that Sat has FTA SBS and 9. I get SBS but 9 comes up with a black screen.

Does anyone know if FTA channels will all be available on Sat soon?

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Taken from http://foxtel.tv/digital_1290.htm#1431

FOR EAST COAST SUBSCRIBERS (ie: Sydney Melbourne Brisbane)

FOXTEL has agreements with the Nine Network and SBS to retransmit their digital signals (standard definition digital signal only) on FOXTEL Digital’s cable and satellite platforms.

FOXTEL will also retransmit the ABC’s digital signal on cable and is negotiating with the ABC over satellite retransmission.

Negotiations to retransmit Seven and Ten’s digital signals on FOXTEL Digital cable and satellite platforms continue. If a digital retransmission agreement is not reached, FOXTEL will continue to retransmit Seven and Ten’s analogue signals on cable, as it does today.

Satellite subscribers can continue to receive the ABC, Seven and Ten signals in their homes using the current terrestrial reception system, as they do today.

FOR ADELAIDE AND PERTH SUBSCRIBERS

FOXTEL has an agreement with SBS to retransmit its digital signals (standard definition digital signal only) on FOXTEL Digital’s cable and satellite platforms.

FOXTEL will also retransmit the ABC’s digital signal on cable and is negotiating with the ABC over satellite retransmission.

Negotiations to retransmit Seven, Nine and Ten’s digital signals on FOXTEL Digital cable and satellite platforms continue. If a digital retransmission agreement is not reached, FOXTEL will continue to retransmit Seven, Nine and Ten’s analogue signals on cable, as it does today.

Satellite subscribers can continue to receive the ABC, Seven, Nine and Ten’s signals in their homes using the current terrestrial reception system, as they do today.

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ABC Reaches Digital Agreement with FOXTEL

28/10/2004

The ABC announced today it had reached an agreement with FOXTEL for ABC television and radio services to be retransmitted on the FOXTEL Digital satellite and cable platform.

The agreement will significantly increase the reach of the ABC's television and radio audience and enable all FOXTEL Digital subscribers to view the ABC with digital quality pictures and sound on their existing television sets.

The ABC service on FOXTEL Digital, to be available from early 2005, will include on the FOXTEL Digital Satellite service, audio channels triple j, ABC Classic FM, Radio National, ABC NewsRadio, DIG Internet radio and some metropolitan and regional radio stations. Under this agreement the ABC's new television digital multichannel will also be retransmitted on the Foxtel platform.

As part of the digital agreement announced today, there will also be exciting possibilities for interactive ABC television to be carried on FOXTEL Digital for select programs in the near future.

"This outcome is of strategic importance to the ABC and is a matter we have been pursuing for some time as we believe that as the national public broadcaster all ABC services should be available on all platforms," ABC Managing Director Russell Balding said today.

"This agreement is an extremely positive outcome for the ABC as it sees the growing subscription television sector as a primary element of its digital television aspirations. The fact is you cannot hope to properly develop digital television plans without participation in the FOXTEL Digital platform.

"The ABC is excited to be working with FOXTEL in developing interactive content and utilising the potential of the FOXTEL Digital platform which offers unique opportunities."

FOXTEL Chief Executive Kim Williams said: "FOXTEL is delighted to have formed this important relationship with the nation's pre-eminent public broadcaster.

"FOXTEL has created the most advanced digital television platform in Australia and we are very keen to explore interactive programming innovations with the ABC.

"Through this retransmission agreement, FOXTEL Digital will help expand the reach of the ABC's digital television and radio services and enhance the experience for viewers and listeners.

"FOXTEL has existing digital retransmission agreements with the SBS and the Nine Network and we are extremely pleased that the ABC has joined us," he said.

The ABC's digital television and radio services will be integrated into the FOXTEL Digital Guide, making program selection easy and convenient for subscribers.

FOXTEL cable subscribers on both the new digital and existing analogue cable systems already receive retransmitted ABC television services.

The ABC has separately secured agreement with Optus for satellite transponder capacity on the Optus C1 satellite to enable retransmission of its digital television and radio services on the FOXTEL Digital platform. FOXTEL also leases capacity on the C1 satellite to distribute its satellite services.

For further information contact:

Media Contacts:

Sandy Culkoff

ABC Media Liaison

Ph: (02) 8333 5155

culkoff.sandy@abc.net.au

abc.net.au/corp/

Mark Furness

FOXTEL Director of Corporate Affairs

Ph: (02) 9200 1733

From http://www.abc.net.au/corp/pubs/s1229802.htm

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The interesting thing is that it will include ABC's interactive services, radio :blink: and the extra channel.

If my job was a longer term job instead of just being a christmas casual job at Myer, I would consider getting Foxtel Digital (well I do want to watch BBC World (especially Top Gear and Click online (without the small resoultion produced by their web broadcast)))

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Means it only leaves 7 and 10 to come across via satellite then.

Well, channel 9 still needs to come on board on WA and Adelaide too.

ABC Reaches Digital Agreement with FOXTEL

28/10/2004

The ABC announced today it had reached an agreement with FOXTEL for ABC television and radio services to be retransmitted on the FOXTEL Digital satellite and cable platform.

The agreement will significantly increase the reach of the ABC's television and radio audience and enable all FOXTEL Digital subscribers to view the ABC with digital quality pictures and sound on their existing television sets

Good news, hardly supprising though, the ABC doesn't need to invest in more satellite capcity, it already has re-transmissions of all ABC versions on C1 via Aurora, all they need to do is dual-encypt with Videoguard and put up the digital versions rather than the current analogue re-transmit versions and your done. Austar viewers will now also be able to get state specif ABC rather than the NSW version.

I still think 7 and 10 is miles off. But I really think they should come to the party for cable.

PS. Anyone know when this is due to start?

Danny.

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Just called Foxtel asking why I dont seem to get any of the free-to-air channels over the foxtel digital satellite settop box. Their reply was that since I live in an apartment (multi-dwelling residence), this is not available to us.

I dont get why there should be any difference between a single dwelling service and a multi dwelling service.

Can anyone suggest a reason?

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Do you get SBS. You should be able to get that one anywhere. If you live in WA thats the only FTA channel you get.

Over east get 9 as well.

Mutli dwelling shouldn't make a difference, maybe they mean you can't get cable.

Cable get all FTA channels.

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Do you get SBS. You should be able to get that one anywhere. If you live in WA thats the only FTA channel you get.

Over east get 9 as well.

Mutli dwelling shouldn't make a difference, maybe they mean you can't get cable.

Cable get all FTA channels.

when channel2 comeing on foxtel digital

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Do you get SBS. You should be able to get that one anywhere. If you live in WA thats the only FTA channel you get.

Over east get 9 as well.

Mutli dwelling shouldn't make a difference, maybe they mean you can't get cable.

Cable get all FTA channels.

Nope, dont get SBS either. This is the east coast (Sydney).

On the digital settop box menu, I see a category for the free-to-air channels (the other categories are 'Sports', 'Entertainmaint', etc). But clicking on that category shows nothing.

I dont think she meant that I cant cable....

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Well i was sort of conned into getting foxtel. The sales rep told me that I would get channel 9 digital and SBS on digital but three weeks after installed, channel 9 gone because of some coverage issue. Now i have to wait for NBN to actually do something about it(they probably don't even know about it).

Satelliteguy

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Well i was sort of conned into getting foxtel. The sales rep told me that I would get channel 9 digital and SBS on digital but three weeks after installed, channel 9 gone because of some coverage issue. Now i have to wait for NBN to actually do something about it(they probably don't even know about it).

Satelliteguy

NBN can't it's nine on foxtel nine has to do somthing about it. And seven won't put their channel on it because foxtel killed C7 which should not of been allowed to happen :blink: and i hope they win in court and C7 is turnned back on. :P

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Um yes they can Jayboniz, All NBN has to do is buy satellite capacity on the Optus C1 and then that would settle it. And Nine don't have to do a thing. We are "out" of the coverage area.

Satelliteguy

yes but were in foxtels coverage area

Posted

Called Foxtel again asking why we didnt get Boxoffice movies (along with the Free-To-Air channels) with my digital service.

Apparently we dont get the "full" digital service. They blamed the Telstra consultant for not divulging this to us when we were asking for advantages over our analogue service. Can I say *ridiculous* and *absolutely unacceptable*

DS

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