perth_artist Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 Hey guys, Just looking for some thoughts on whether a subwoofer should be included in a 2 channel setup. My current bookshelf speakers do pretty good bass, but just wondering if adding a subwoofer is going to bring anything new.....added oomph or depth ? Purely just for music, not movies at this point in time. Thanks
awayward Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 Yes definitely add a sub, it will add a whole new dimension to your music, and improve the listening experience considerably, my recent experience of adding subs. 3
Happy Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 Some thinks you don't understand the soul of music if you had a sub or two. Deep I know.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
perth_artist Posted June 4, 2017 Author Posted June 4, 2017 Thanks for the replies, if not a bit cryptic Can you recomend a sub to go with, budgets a bit tight soooooo round the $300 mark thereabouts ?
andyr Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Happy said: Some thinks you don't understand the soul of music if you had a sub or two. Deep I know. Mmmm, can you take a moment or two to read what you wrote (which I, for one, absolutely don't understand!) and re-write it so we all can understand it. "Some thinks" ... do you really mean "some people think"? And "you don't understand the soul of music if you had a sub or two" ... do you mean "you don't understand the soul of music unless you have a sub or two"? Thanks, Andy
andyr Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, perth_artist said: Hey guys, Just looking for some thoughts on whether a subwoofer should be included in a 2 channel setup. My current bookshelf speakers do pretty good bass, but just wondering if adding a subwoofer is going to bring anything new.....added oomph or depth ? "Bookshelf speakers" don't do bass (they are too small!). So, yes, they need a sub - or preferably 2! - to give you "bass". How low you want your bass to go decides how big - and expensive - the sub needs to be. IME, a sub doesn't really add "oomph" ... what it/they does/do is add a solid foundation to the music you are hearing. I have only recently added a pair of subs to my music system. Now I didn't have "bookshelf" speakers - my mains delivered to at least 35hz - but the addition of subs means I can now hear another octave down. And the result is amazing! 14 minutes ago, perth_artist said: Thanks for the replies, if not a bit cryptic Can you recomend a sub to go with, budgets a bit tight soooooo round the $300 mark thereabouts ? You might be struggling, at $300. Sorry. Andy Edited June 4, 2017 by andyr 2
Happy Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 Mmmm, can you take a moment or two to read what you wrote (which I, for one, absolutely don't understand!) and re-write it so we all can understand it. [emoji6] "Some thinks" ... do you really mean "some people think"? And "you don't understand the soul of music if you had a sub or two" ... do you mean "you don't understand the soul of music unless you have a sub or two"? Thanks, Andy Trying to talk down someone for minor grammatical or typographical errors on internet is such a low thing Andy. I know you're a dinosaur but still that's just so not fashionable Well I happen to have a sub....once had up to 4. So I'm not the one to diss them subs but some do. In fact the majority in this game.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 4
Decky Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) All 2-way bookshelves do pretty good bass - a deliberately pumped 100Hz that rolls off very quickly and overly loaded and noisy ports. Add a sub, plug the ports and enjoy a completely different music experience. Edited June 4, 2017 by Decky
andyr Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 Just now, Happy said: Trying to talk down someone for minor grammatical or typographical errors on internet is such a low thing Andy. I know you're a dinosaur but still that's just so not fashionable Well I happen to have a sub....once had up to 4. So I'm not the one to diss them subs but some do. In fact the majority in this game. Sorry, H - it's just that I didn't understand WTF you were trying to say. (It wasn't grammatical or typographic ... I was questioning your meaning! And surely, when we speak or write ... the aim is to have clear meaning.) Andy
andyr Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Decky said: All 2-way bookshelves do pretty good bass - a deliberately pumped 100Hz that rolls off very quickly and overly loaded and noisy ports. You call that "pretty good bass"? Andy 3
Happy Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 And surely, when we speak or write ... the aim is to have clear meaning. Andy Not necessarily. Sometimes we wanna insinuate, get cryptic or a little vague. Intentionally. After all I'm here to chill and joke around rather than get picky about little stuffSent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1
Luvitloud Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 FS: Bowers & Wilkins ASW650 Subwooferhttps://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=36815&share_tid=226070&share_pid=2095554&url=http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?/topic/226070-FS%3A--Bowers-%26-Wilkins-ASW650-Subwoofer/page__view__findpost__p__2095554&share_type=tSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1
andyr Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Decky said: There was sarcasm in those words .... Sure - trouble is, some owners of 2-way, ported bookshelf/standmount speakers actually do believe they get "good bass" (and don't need a sub or two). My view is that they need to be eddycated - not agreed with. 1 minute ago, Happy said: Not necessarily. Sometimes we wanna insinuate, get cryptic or a little vague. Intentionally. After all I'm here to chill and joke around rather than get picky about little stuff Each to his own, H. I'm here to: a. learn, and b. to help people by correcting their misconceptions. Andy
Happy Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 Each to his own, H. I'm here to: a. learn, and b. to help people by correcting their misconceptions. [emoji3] Andy Next time you joke around I'm gonna reproduce your line above and fart hard Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1
andyr Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Happy said: Next time you joke around I'm gonna reproduce your line above and fart hard You obviously haven't picked up that I'm on the Aspergers spectrum, H. But yes, please tell me when I post something ... if you think I am 'joking around'. Andy 1
Happy Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 You obviously haven't picked up that I'm on the Aspergers spectrum, H. [emoji14] But yes, please tell me when I post something ... if you think I am 'joking around'. [emoji3] Andy OopsSent from my iPad using Tapatalk
andyr Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Happy said: Oops It's coming back to me as a result of our 'chat', H - didn't: a. you used to have another moniker, and b. I bought some very nice English bookshelf spkrs from you which I have in my bedroom (on Pivotelli stands, up near the ceiling) - which I sent you a pic of? This dinosaur's memory is fading. Andy
Happy Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 It's coming back to me as a result of our 'chat', H - didn't: a. you used to have another moniker, and b. I bought some very nice English bookshelf spkrs from you which I have in my bedroom (on Pivotelli stands, up near the ceiling) - which I sent you a pic of? This dinosaur's memory is fading. [emoji6] Andy Both accounts correct. Thought you knew lolSent from my iPad using Tapatalk
ex brickie Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 Ok back to the OP..... what would the best active subs be at a $500-750 price point second hand? Again for 2 channel only - not films. Also how do they wire up from a standard hifi amplifier? 1
Happy Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 Also how do they wire up from a standard hifi amplifier? Pre out.If none, you can still draw the signal fro speaker binding posts mostly.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
ex brickie Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 No pre out.... so speaker cable into sub then then out again to another speaker?
Happy Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 No pre out.... so speaker cable into sub then then out again to another speaker? Typically you draw the signal from speaker cables to the sub directly. Some have their in built speaker binding posts. If none, you can still try the Hi-Low converter in car audio.RELs have speakon connection for stereo amps which is recommended.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
ex brickie Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 Thanks. But if you only,have a single pair of speaker binding posts which are used for the main speakers I still don't understand where the signal,to the sub comes from
Happy Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 Thanks. But if you only,have a single pair of speaker binding posts which are used for the main speakers I still don't understand where the signal,to the sub comes from You share the posts with the cables for connection to the sub. The load is marginal so normally you don't need to worry about it except for certain valve amps.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1
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