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Some people have experienced discomfort in the past when viewing with 3D glasses and prefer therefore to view in 2D, relying on such monoscopic depth cues as may be present: For my vision, monoscopic cues are a poor substitute for sterescopic 3D. Fortunately for me, I do not experience headaches from 3D at public cinemas, or when viewing 3D video at home. This thread is to showcase photos or videos that incorporate a sterescopic complexity that benefits noticeably from a stereo view, when compared with a mono view. I will try to come back to this thread on the weekend to add further examples. Tonight I will provide only two examples (and refer to a very challenging further example): 1. The following video explains how to watch cross-eyed for glasses-free 3D, and shows a complex array of orbiting coloured balls. It may be helpful initially to view this with a reduced window size: Notes: It is a little uncomfortable watching the above cross-eyed. Watching with a 3D display set to resolve reversed side-by-side content would be easier. The video link at the end of the above takes you to a very challenging random dot pattern that can only be resolved in 3D. I do not recommend trying that video unless you are relaxed, and familiar with viewing cross-eyed 3D. If you can successfully converge your eyes to see a fused central pane, the moving hidden image -- once you lock onto it -- is quite easy to see. However it is absolutely impossible to see it with monoscopic viewing, i.e. by simply viewing the Left pane, or the Right pane, separately. Don't worry too much if you don't see it. The cross-eyed viewing combined with the randomness makes the hidden image hard to lock onto. 2. The following webpage shows several still images for cross-eyed viewing. Check out the last stereo pair, "Tulips in early May, 2008. Hand-held digital camera." The stems of the tulips are much more easily separated when viewing in 3D and the image, though a mere still, comes vividly to life: http://www.lhup.edu/.../3dgallery2.htm

Omg talk about a left field dream come true - a 3d movie finally getting a Blu ray release!!! https://www.randomspacemedia.com/shop-all/p/jumanj-the-next-level-2d-3d-bluray And they have a 3d Venom local release coming too. Although I already have that from Germany. But this is a first for Jumanji 2!! Let's hope these people get Venom, the Fast and Furious 3d releases, MI fallout etc!!!

From http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Ultra_HD/3D/Plasma/Samsung/Panasonic/LG/Samsung/Sony/Vizio/TCL/Dolby_Vision/hdr/ces-2017-rip-3dtv/37650 :- May I recommend to AV/DTV Forum members keen on the continued production of 3D capable displays by the leading manufacturers that they consider taking the practical step of subscribing to a petition? The petition is to LG for a revival of 3D in an OLED model next year. See LG - Please revive 3D on a 2018 OLED TV model

Hi, I have a Sony blu ray bdp-s580 running through a Bose Lifestyle 135 to an LG 50PZ650 and I am encountering a strange problem. 3D was working just fine under this set up before but, suddenly, the Blu Ray says it cannot detect a 3D display. I have checked firmware (all up to date) and then switched off and re-did all the cabling but still no good. I decided to test the HDMI lead and ran a different lead and this is where things got interesting. If I run the HDMI lead around the front of the TV unit, 3D works. But, if I run it through the back near all the other cables then I get no 3D (everything else works perfectly). I assume this is some sort of interference specifically with the 3D signal? Just wondering if anyone had come across something similar or had a solution that would allow me to keep the HDMI lead at the back of the cabinet where it belongs? Cheers, Mike.

Hi All, I have decided to start a placeholder for information, reviews etc on a few of the Benq projectors that may hold some interest for forum members. If you have any questions, ideas or concerns put them here and we will do our best to answer them. Cheers, Matt

Hello Everyone, I've recently picked a new 40Es and while I am very happy with it there are two little issues. One which is rather troublesome is excessive 3D ghosting, it is especially noticeable when viewing text of any kind such as credits at the end of a movie or hud displays on games, literally a letter or number is clearly visible twice, one as it should be and another next to it/behind it transparent. I have tried all obvious settings no joy. I've called Sony support they have no clue, the guy on the phone said "well I've used 3D on TV but never on projectors" and this was professional support!! What I've noticed is that it is unbearably bad when the projector was just turned on but after a while say 30-40 min it is better. I think and I say "think" the issue is with the right eye because when I am trying to calibrate it on the PC using NVidia control panel it goes through the wizard and gets me to check each eye, the left eye shows the correct image but right eye fails. I am using the better RF receiver and glasses not the built in IR. Tried two glasses. Another issues is that when the image is bright say white PC background or any sort of bright image there is a slight high pitch noise coming form he PJ which is annoying if there is a quiet scene or there is no audio, when the image is black or dark there is no noise. Thanks in advance I really hope to get some valuable advice here as Sony support is utterly useless. Cheers

Some of us may be taking the plunge later this year and debiting our plastic cards to the tune of $4k or so in exchange for a 65” 4K Ultra High Definition TV. That's around one dollar per horizontal pixel position, or about 1/20th of a cent per pixel. Some of the displays use active 3D, requiring matching battery operated 3D active glasses. The glasses alternately blank the left and right lenses. Other displays use passive 3D which can be viewed with the cheap polarised glasses you get at a Real D cinema. This article at c|net explains some of the advantages of passive 3D for a 4K display: 4K TVs with passive 3D: Finally, a good use for all those pixels. The article refers to: less cross-talk [it is difficult to make active LCD panels fade down the Left image to black every 1/120th second and at the same time fade in the Right image; and the lower the crosstalk generally the greater the sacrifice in brightness] cheaper lighter glasses with no need to change or charge batteries no significant reduction in visible resolution in practice [and no problem with the venetian blind effect and other artefacts noticeable with 1920x1080 passive 3D displays] no flicker issues However an important matter the above article and almost all similar articles fail to mention, is the timing discrepancy between Left and Right introduced by shutter glasses. I was reminded of that recently when watching the following YouTube video which I had downloaded using YTD Video Downloader and transferred to a USB stick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fMS2pL_TIOU [if you download this and play it on a Blu-ray player the player may render it at 24fps even though it is actually a 25fps file. To stop that happening you may need to change settings of your player regarding automatic playing in 3D. To check the frame rate actually being created, observe source technical details displayed on your 3D TV. The TV will of course need to be set to side by side mode 3D.] The first part of the video is in slow motion. (I seem to recall when I analysed my own recording of this broadcast some time ago that the first segment was actually 25 progressive segmented frame rather than 50 interlaced.) The timing discrepancy between Left and Right when watching this first segment with shutter glasses operating at 100Hz does not seem critical. Difficulties arise however with the second part of the video, the 2010 NRL material (which is at normal speed and would be true 50i). If you watch flags being enthusiastically waved in the stadium, you may see some odd mirage like effects. However if you then watch with only one eye the mirage effect is much reduced. Also if you use a passive display the mirage effect is much reduced. This provides indirect proof of the timing discrepancy introduced by the use of active 3D technology. My own vision is very sensitive to Left Right timing discrepancies. I find 100Hz shutter glasses 3D to give a poor viewing experience a lot of the time, 120Hz shutter glasses a significant improvement, and 144Hz to be quite a bit smoother again. 144Hz with 24p material seems to work well. Manufacturers are reticent to divulge actual alternation rates of shutter glasses used with particular TVs [or projectors]. I would expect the glasses for existing 4K TVs to alternate at only 120Hz with 24p and 60i/p 3D source material, and at only 100Hz for 50i/p 3D source material. I have very occasionally seen a 3D out of phase mirage effect at a public cinema (RealD 144Hz). It could be that shutter glasses operating at 150Hz could do a good job with 50i source but I have never seen 150Hz alternation rate 3D. [it's important to note that glasses rated for 240Hz may not in practice alternate between Left and Right at that very high rate. Rather the extra capacity may be used instead for blanking, and reducing ghosting.] For me, 3D Left Right timing is critical and I will probably go for a passive 4K set. (Passive also tends to make for a more relaxing 3D viewing experience than using low alternation rate shutter glasses.) However in making that choice I would of course be denying myself the opportunity of seeing any 4K 3D material at full vertical resolution. Not a straightforward decision! Edit. Warning: see query raised at post #7 below concerning the 55" Sony 4k model and its ability to display all 1080 Left and Right lines when displaying a Full HD 3D Blu-ray

For many years, stereoscopic 3D has been close to my heart. I thought it not a bad idea to start up this thread with its primary emphasis on projectors and 3D. 3D TV sets are no longer being made, but, thankfully, 3D projectors are! Virtual reality headsets are becoming more popular but they tend to offer wide vertical and horizontal viewing angles and the actual resolution for watching a 3D Blu-ray at its required vertical and horizontal viewing angles generally turns out to be poor. (There are some promising developments in 3D cinema headsets and in a year or two it might be a good solution to use these for high quality 3D viewing on an aircraft, or in other situations where only one person is viewing the 3D material.) In another, current, thread there's been discussion about the 3D performance of a specific new projector, compared with specific older 3D projectors, and a specific 4K passive 3D TV. That thread is: 3D performance on JVC DLA vs BENQ DLP vs LG OLED? Interested readers might prefer to have a look at that thread first, before continuing here. I thought I'd kick off this new thread by giving a broad reply to a recent post in that other thread. Here goes... I installed the BenQ firmware update early on, not long after acquiring my W1070, and was then able to use the wider range of video input resolutions. This cheap, entry level, projector provided remarkably smooth 3D for 24fps 3D Blu-ray discs. My main complaint was the rather high minimum black level. Further down the track I changed to a 4K Sony LCD passive TV set with passably good 3D crosstalk performance and a much better black level. Unfortunately after the standard warranty on this TV had expired, it developed an unrepairable screen fault. Sony, to their credit, supplied a brand new set, with HDR capability, free of charge to me. It provided an even further improved black level. Unfortunately the 3D crosstalk performance was poor. (I didn't have the heart to ask Sony for another replacement set. The set was watchable in 3D, but the crosstalk could at times be very distracting.) ______________ Buying second hand There are lessons to be learned if considering buying a used 3D TV set or projector: 1. Passive display screens that use a film-type patterned retarder can give very satisfying 3D by way of displaying Left and Right simultaneously. However even 4K sets using this technology have been known to be subject to quality variations in terms of crosstalk performance. If at all possible a second-hand 3D set using a film-type patterned retarder should be inspected in operation prior to purchase, to assess the 3D crosstalk performance (for viewing from the limited optimum vertical viewing angle range). 2. Some projectors do not use a Left Right alternation rate of 144Hz for 24fps 3D movies but 120Hz or even 96Hz. For some people this is a distinct minus to viewing pleasure. And a certain number of projector models appear to suffer from quality control issues in relation to their 3D performance. If at all possible an assessment with the projector in operation displaying 3D material is desirable. As an example, here is an issue PKK ran into: ________ Evaluating performance using side-by-side or top and bottom source material SPORT Some of us still have recordings of the 2010 side by side TV broadcasts in Australia of football matches, or of the 2012 side by side TV broadcasts of the London Olympic games. These broadcasts were at 50 interlaced fields a second. Shutter glasses typically will slow down to 100Hz if the video material is at 25fps of 50fps. It's important to understand how limited in quality these broadcasts were and not to blame the projector if the material doesn't scrub up well. This is what to expect: 1. Close ups will generally look relatively detailed as the limited horizontal resolution of 960 pixels for the Left view and 960 pixels for the right view is sufficient. However distant shots of players or competitors will tend to look fuzzy. 2. The 3D effect will usually work well for close ups of players and competitors. However with a camera view of the entire playing field, adults will often look like children in size. This effect was very noticeable for the coverage of Australian football matches in 2010 with distant shots of players on the field giving the appearance of small boys. In addition, as noted at 1, the images were fuzzy. 3. Shutter glasses operating at 100Hz will give a noticeable flicker for bright expanses in the image, such as a view of the sky. The significant time delay between presenting Left and Right when using a 100Hz alternation rate will add a special 3D judder to the appearance of the action where shutter glasses are used. 4. Even with passive LCD sets that present Left a Right simultaneously, the underling source video rate of 50 interlaced images a second when deinterlaced to 50 frames a second provides rather indistinct detail for the motion, leading to a breakdown in the 3D effect for those parts of the image that are moving rapidly. (It seems to be easier for human eyes to watch blurry 2D than blurry 3D.) This issue becomes worse if the display device shows up false images by way of crosstalk between Left and Right. In conclusion, it is no great surprise that broadcasting of side by side 3D television coverage of sport using 2D frames of 1920 x 1080 pixels at 50i, pressed into service for side-by-side 3D, ground to a halt. Sport at 60i is not as trying to watch with home projectors as the shutter glasses will typically operate at 120Hz, resulting in less flicker, and somewhat smoother motion. CARTOONS, DRAMA, SEA LIFE The net provides some 1920x1080 side-by-side (SBS) or top and bottom material at 30fps or 60fps. This will generally be projected with an alternation rate of 120Hz, a distinct improvement over 100Hz. The limited resolution (limited vertical resolution with the over under (OU) format, limited horizontal resolution with the SBS format) will reduce the visible detail. Cartoons can be very demanding in relation to crosstalk. They can also involve fast action, which can easily lead to momentary breakdowns in the illusion of 3D. Dramas on the other hand tend to involve slow action. Nature programs of sea life are particularly well suited to 3D as the speed of movement of sea life is generally slow, and camera distances are often relatively short because of the limited visibility of ocean depths. This tends to keep the clearly visible sea life in the foreground. Also, a school of small fish that looks like a disorganised jumble in 2D can come to life as distinctly visible separate fish when viewed in 3D. The difference between watching in 2D and watching in 3D can be dramatic. __________ Brightness - contrast - crosstalk RealD public cinemas have managed to provide reasonably pleasing results with 3D by using low light levels and a polarization alternation rate of 144Hz for 24fps movies. Any attempt to project with high brightness and high contrast at home will place demands on crosstalk performance. In particular, LCD projectors that produce a bright image, may not always change state fast enough to avoid the Left image bleeding into the Right image, and vice versa. Also any projector that alternates Left and Right at only 120Hz (or worse, at 100Hz or 96Hz) will tend to look flickery at higher brightness levels. Motion artefacts that human eyes might disregard at low illumination levels can become distracting at high illumination levels because human eyes perceive more quickly in brighter light. (Here's a very technical journal article: Human scotopic sensitivity is regulated postreceptorally by changing the speed of the scotopic response ). It's no wonder to me that 3D discs for the public are limited to a standard dynamic range. With home projectors, it is difficult to achieve sufficiently low apparent flicker and sufficiently low visible crosstalk, at low light levels. Attempting High Dynamic Range for 3D in a home projector would be asking for trouble! So even if 2D home projectors emerge capable of providing a really solid HDR performance, we should not necessarily expect them to be able to be readily adapted to providing a comparable dynamic range for 3D material, with its special requirements of low flicker and little crosstalk.

hey guys, I am new to the forum and hoping you can help me. I have tried getting help from the samsung tech heads but they gave me the run around. I recently purchased a samsung ps59d8000 TV. I also own a Samsung Galaxy S2. I downloaded the Smart View app and have been toying with it for the last day or so. I can manage to get the remote side of things working, but the dual view function is proving to be a real pain. I turned the blue tooth on and pair the two, and have both the TV and the Phone connected to my wireless internet. It attempts to go into dual view with a loading icon, then it stops and comes up with a "decoder error". I'm confused as to what this means. I can't find anything on the net specific about it and how to overcome it. There is nothing in samsungs FAQ's. Can anyone help me or atleast explain what is going on here? Is it my phone or my TV, or both? Thanks in advance

Hi Folks, So i bought a JVC projector recently, the x90. Had it professionally installed and calibrated as well (at least to the best of my knowledge) and the 2D Blu-ray quality is absolutely stunning. The only issue I have, is with the 3D quality that comes out (played with a Panasonic BWT800 blu-ray player, also have a ps3 but I think the BWT800 has better quality). Now what my issues I seem to have is that during a 3D movie (in this case Transformers 3), it seemed really weird on the eyes in that it wasn't as smooth as I expected it to be. Now it's a 3D only blu-ray movie that is being shown, and the BWT800 supports 3d. The projector does have a high speed cable into an integra 50.4 amp, as does the BWT800 player so that's not an issue. I can't exactly tell why the image seems a little fuzzy at times. Is that how 3D movies are at home? Is this what they mean by crosstalk? I also read somewhere that the projector doesn't automatically swap to 3D or something (in a review I read) so I'm really just trying to figure out if my eyes need to adjust to the signal, or that's just how it is (I'd hope not). Sorry if anyone was confused here, but I was hoping for some input. Also, how does the 4K eshift tech work, I can't seem to find anything about it in the manual nor in the projector settings?

Item: Oppo BDP-95 (region-free) Location: Ballarat, VIC Price: $400pp $350pp Item Condition: Excellent Reason for selling: Very rarely used Payment Method: Pickup - Cash, Paypal, COD Only Extra Info: Was region-modified by the distributor before being sent to me - now plays blu-ray discs (and DVDs) from all regions. Unit is in excellent condition (pardon the dust in photos ) but is simply not used very much these days - audio and video are mostly streamed in my house now. Pictures:

Item: 10 metre HDMI Cable TCC Platinum High Speed 3D 1080p like new Location: Melb SE Price: $35 plus shipping at buyers cost Item Condition: Mint like new Reason for selling: cable clear out now surplus Payment Method: cash, PayPal at buyers cost, COD Extra Info: Some might know the TCC 10M platinum hdmi cable that goes highly recommended given the very affordable price and that work faultlessly over 10m length. The also have a slim flat construction yet well made with braided outer but both plugs and cable sheath slim enough to enable them to be run in wall and under houses and in ceilings. the cable itself not too much thicker than yellow tongue people use to run cables ! and a much easier run than many heavier hdmi cables out there. I used one of these up until recently but upgraded to 4K uhd which this cable simply was never designed to do. It will be faultless though for dvd, blu-ray, hd audio, multichannel hi res, 3D even ethernet etc so affordably probably quite a snip if needing a cable over a long length eg feeding a projector. and will do that faultlessly If in melbourne welcome to come pick this up and pay cash on pick up. If needing posting Given the nature of the item can post australia wide however will be at buyers cost. even then at the price its going to be hard to beat to buy a quality cable like it for the money. hopefully can see from the pic below its in great nick like new ! Picture and further info the tech buy website still has some info on this cable if looking, http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/177118/CABLES_HDMI/TCC/CAB-MHD110E.asp

Item: JVC X35 1080p 3D projector - Sold3 x 3D glasses - SoldWall/ceiling mount - $100110" 16:9 fixed screen with black velvet edge - Sold6.1 Accusound OM-650 speakers - Sold Location: Kellyville Ridge, Sydney Price: 1800 Item Condition: Everything in excellent condition and functioning Reason for selling: Moving Houses and don't have room in the new place Payment Method: Pickup - Cash, Paypal, COD Only Extra Info: Recently put a new lamp in the projector which only has 29 hours on it (these are rated to last 2000 - 3000 hours). The projector has excellent picture quality as seen in the photos, which is running in eco and low lamp mode. Pictures:

Item: EPSON TW9200 FHD Projector with 3 pairs of rechargeable 3D glasses Location: Kew, Vic Price: $900 Item Condition: Excellent Reason for selling: NLR, Moving House Payment Method: Pickup - Cash, Paypal, COD Only Extra Info: 2196 Lamp Hours. Happy to demo for local buyers. Have box, contents and can ship Aust wide at buyers expense.

Item: BenQ W8000 THX Projector + 100” Fixed Screen (dragonfly Matte White) Location: The Ponds, Sydney NSW Price: $3000 $2600 ono Item Condition: Used (near new) Reason for selling: Moved house, no cinema room. Payment Method: Pickup - Cash, Paypal, COD Only Extra Info: Only used for 3 months. Approximately 100 hours. Perfect condition. Screen is a 100” Dragonfly Matte White 1.2 gain with flocked black frame. Pictures:

This is an Amazing Projector , i bought it after seeing a demo of it in my Man cave and fell in love , but iam going to try the Laser one soon or the JVC X7000 or X9000 So someone is going to get a good price , this comes with everything as is on the box , nothing has been touched or opened , comes with warranty which could be transferred i will upload pics of the box soon , The shop price ( or lowest i found ) is $4800 , but iam just asking for $4450 Thank you

Pick up from Norwood SA or you can organise your own courier. Epson EH-TW8200 / 5030UB 3D 1080p Home Theater Projector RRP$3,599 New Lamp Included and in Original Box Only 1,950 hours plus a Brand New Lamp ! Bargain at $1,970 with a Brand New Genuine $270 lamp !!! So you are getting the projector for just $1,700 !!! Used in a dedicated home theater which is obviously smoke free. Pick up from Norwood SA or you can organise your own courier. Any Question please fill free to ask. Epson EH-TW8200 LCD Full High Definition 3D Home Cinema Projector Quick Facts: Epson EH-TW8200 Throw Distance Chart (Examples for common Sizes) Image Size Installation Distance (Approx. To Lens) 92" (16:9) 2030x1140mm From 2.8m to 5.8m 100" (16:9) 2130x1200mm From 3.0m to 6.3m 110" (16:9) 2435x1370mm From 3.3m to 7.0m 120" (16:9) 2580x1450mm From 3.6m to 7.6m SPECIFICATIONS Native Resolution: WUXGA 1920 x 1080 16:9 Brightness: 2400 ANSI Lumens Maximum Contrast: 600,000:1 Weight: 8.4kg Fan Noise: 22db Warranty: 2 Years (+1 Year $135) Lamp Warranty: 12 months / 750 hours Lamp Life Up To: 5,000hrs FEATURES - 2.0x Zoom - 2x HDMI Connection - Horizontal & Vertical Lens Shift - Frame Interpolation - 2D to 3D Conversion Main Features: High 2400 ANSI Lumens 600,000:1 CR 2 X HDMI 1 X RGB Low 22 DB Noise level Frame Interpolation 2D to 3D Conversion 2.0x Zoom Lens Shift: Vertical: -96.3% to +96.3% (H Center, Manual) / Horizontal: -47.1% to +47.1% (V Center, Manual) Screen Size 30" to 300" [0.87 to 9.03 m] (Zoom: Wide) 30" to 300" [1.88 to 19.15 m] (Zoom: Tele) Keystone Correction Vertical: -30 to +30 degrees Projection Distance: 100" screen 2.98 - 6.36 m Throw Ratio 1.34 (Zoom: Wide), 2.87 (Zoom: Tele) Projection Lens F Number: 2.3 - 3.6 / Projection Lens Focal Length: 22.5 mm - 47.2 mm Focus Method: Manual Image Specifications: Colour Light Output:2,400 Lumens White Light Output: 2,400 Lumens Resolution: 1080p Native Aspect Ratio: 16:9 Contrast Ratio: 600,000:1 Lamp Type: 230 W UHE (E-TORL) Colour Video Processing: Full 10bit (Partial 12bit) Here are a couple of review extracts; Performance Features Ease Of Use Value "The TW8200 is one of the most flexible projectors on the market when it comes to installation and placement, featuring a 2.1:1 manual zoom lens with horizontal and vertical lens shift, both of which have extensive range. This opens up a variety of placement options. While the projector is laden with features that make it easy to install and use, the primary draw of the Home Cinema TW8200 is image quality. The TW8200's image in both 2D and 3D is the best we've ever seen from Epson, and the picture on screen makes it clear where every single dollar of the projector's purchase price went. In other words, it looks more expensive than it actually is. " "Out of the Box color performance is just dandy. Even Brightness control is right on the money for not crushing dark shadow detail in most modes. Natural and THX modes look very good. Living Room is extremly bright and very watchable, great for sports. Dynamic as expected is a strong on greens/yellows, but not too bad. Use it when you need every last lumen. " "Unless you are a gung ho DLP fan who won't buy any other technology, this Epson needs to be on your short list if you are shopping anywher near it's price point. It just provides a whole lot of picture and features for a really reasonable price."

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