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  1. I have always though the speaker room interaction was by far the most important part of the system. However I've been very lucky with the rooms and speakers I've had in the past they have largely worked out very well. Ironically this dedicated room which _should_ have been the best turns out to be the worst. Either that or my hearing has become very very bad. I have made an appointment with Red Spade Audio this Monday. Hopefully it's the room rather than my hearing
  2. Hi everyone, I have been struggling to get a decent sound from my system for awhile now, and after a lot of testing/changing/trading etc I've come to the conclusion it's most likely the room. I am in Melbourne. Are there people out there who can check my room and apply suitable sound treatment? I mean in a professional sense that I can pay them to treat the room. The room is 5.3 x 4m and 2.4m ceilings with carpet and velvet curtains down 1 side. There is currently no acoustic/sound treatments at all. The reason I think it's the room is because I've tried all sorts of things, and am never happy with the sound. The same equipment at someone else's house sounds much better. Initially I thought it was a phase issue with the wiring, but it's not. I've checked that 1000 times. Then I thought it was my hearing, but music sounds good at a store and other people's rooms. Background About 15 years ago I had a system(s) I was happy with. It wasn't perfect, but I could listen to music at rather loud levels for a long time. Due to personal reasons at the time, I sold everything. A few years ago I got a dedicated media room and started setting up my system again. The Problem Everything I hear sounds like it's out of phase. Everything I hear sounds too bright and seems to have a big chunk of the midrange missing. I don't hear any warmth, no thump in the bass, and the minute anything gets turned up, it sounds like everyone is screaming in your ear. I can hear rumble. The walls shake, so I can feel the bass, I just can't hear the bass. I am set up for 7.2.4, but I am talking about stereo/music where this problem is most noticeable. Thanks in advanced
  3. Denon X3700H This is a new unit bought less than a week ago. I am going to pro/power, and was unable to get a refund for this. My loss is your gain. Unit has been plugged in and tested, but otherwise new. Price is firm. Info: http://www.denon.com/en-au/shop/avreceiver/avcx3700h
  4. A set of 4 x Definitive Technology Mythos Eight speakers. Original RRP over $1000 for each speaker. Comes with wall brackets. Will voice match all current and old Definitive Technology speaker all the way back to the BP 2000 series speakers. Each speaker has Aircraft grade aluminum body 1 x 1" tweeter 2 x 5.25" midbass 2 x 5.25" bass radiators - 11 x 15 x 72 cm (approx) - 8 ohms 8.3 kg Manual: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/assets.soundunited.com/definitive/product_documents_legacy/Mythos23810_Manual_12609_read.pdf
  5. Definitive Techology SuberCube 4000 Subwoofer High Performance 1200W Powered Subwoofer With 8" Woofer and Dual 8" Bass Radiators In excellent condition. Everything works perfectly. This is a little ripper of a sub. Small box, but huge power and bass. From website: Huge, accurate bass impact for movies and music from a compact enclosure, measuring only 12.88” x 12” x 13” 8” subwoofer driver pressure-coupled to two 8” Ultra Low Bass Radiators enhances speed, musicality and control 1200-watt digital tracking amplifier and 56-bit Digital Signal Processor (DSP) preamp stage improves performance Disappearing alpha-numeric display and performance optimizer remote control allow precise system tweaking Website: https://www.definitivetechnology.com/products/supercube-4000 I do not have the remote, but have never needed it. All the functions work with the buttons on the back of the sub. You can get replacement remotes from the Importer for $40
  6. Egglestonworks Andra 1 Speakers Stereophile Speaker of the year 1997 Each speaker has 1 x Dynaudio Esotar Tweeters 2 x 6" Morel double-magnet midranges with 3" voice coils 2 x 12" Dynaudio woofers in a 'pressure-driven' configuration Each speaker is wrapped in variegated granite panels and weighs about 100kg! I got these recently from a SNA member, and while these are some of the best speakers I have ever heard, it's time to down size majorly, so these have to go. Stereophile review https://www.stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/237/index.html
  7. Egglestonworks Andra 1 Speakers Stereophile Speaker of the year 1997 Each speaker has 1 x Dynaudio Esotar Tweeters 2 x 6" Morel double-magnet midranges with 3" voice coils 2 x 12" Dynaudio woofers in a 'pressure-driven' configuration Each speaker is wrapped in variegated granite panels and weighs about 100kg! I got these recently from a SNA member, and while these are some of the best speakers I have ever heard, it's time to down size majorly, so these have to go. Stereophile review https://www.stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/237/index.html
  8. Definitive Techology SuberCube 4000 Subwoofer High Performance 1200W Powered Subwoofer With 8" Woofer and Dual 8" Bass Radiators In as new condition. Everything works perfectly. This is a little ripper of a sub. Small box, but huge power and bass. From website: Huge, accurate bass impact for movies and music from a compact enclosure, measuring only 12.88” x 12” x 13” 8” subwoofer driver pressure-coupled to two 8” Ultra Low Bass Radiators enhances speed, musicality and control 1200-watt digital tracking amplifier and 56-bit Digital Signal Processor (DSP) preamp stage improves performance Disappearing alpha-numeric display and performance optimizer remote control allow precise system tweaking Website: https://www.definitivetechnology.com/products/supercube-4000
  9. Speaker Stands in black. Ideal for small speakers. I believe these are Monoprice 103022 Satellite Speaker Stands. Adjustable height from about 680 - 1100 mm NOTE: Does not come with screws to hold the speaker.
  10. Definitive Techology SuberCube 4000 Subwoofer High Performance 1200W Powered Subwoofer With 8" Woofer and Dual 8" Bass Radiators In very good condition. Everything works perfectly. This is a little ripper of a sub. Small box, but huge power and bass. Due to weight, pickup only from 3028 please. From website: Huge, accurate bass impact for movies and music from a compact enclosure, measuring only 12.88” x 12” x 13” 8” subwoofer driver pressure-coupled to two 8” Ultra Low Bass Radiators enhances speed, musicality and control 1200-watt digital tracking amplifier and 56-bit Digital Signal Processor (DSP) preamp stage improves performance Disappearing alpha-numeric display and performance optimizer remote control allow precise system tweaking Website: https://www.definitivetechnology.com/products/supercube-4000
  11. Things like bullets, door slams etc, you can tell if it's left or right behind you. But not if it's from the side or back or top. I just thought there would be more direction rather than a big wall of sound. If I use the tone test where only 1 speaker makes sound, then it's clear which speakers the sound is coming from I have tried to minimise the hard services. However I have not installed any sound panels, but that is on the list. The clap test is not too bad. There is hardly any echo. But I still plan to put velvet curtains in 1/2 the room, and sound panels as well. I am using the AVR for the x.x.4 x ceiling/top speakers. All other 7.x.x channels are being driven by an external AVR. My AVR allows auto calibration in 3 positions (main, position 1, and position 2), and I've done all 3. I have tried both EQ on and off, and the tone changes slightly, but the directionality remains the same.
  12. That's sort of what I am getting, but the sound is come from everywhere. It's my the whole back 1/3 of the room is making sound, but it's all 1 sound. I can't tell left from right, up from down, and certainly not if it's from the side or behind me. I'm not sure if it's a setup issue, a source issue, or my hearing issue. But hopefully testing 5.x.x. with floor standing speakers will identify where the issue is.
  13. After a few weeks of listening, here is where I am at now with my 7.2.4 system. I have calibrated using the auto setup and mic. There is not much separation / direction between the back and height speakers. The height and back sounds all blend into big sound behind and above me. I followed the Dolby guideline and put the surround and sb speakers within their limits, but it seems to me they might be too close together. I also put them at 1.2m up the wall (half way to the ceiling in my case), which I think might be a bit too high. I think @niterida may have been onto something about 5.x.x rather than 7.x.x As a test, what I will do is to disconnect the surrounds and sb speakers, and put 1 pair of speakers as surrounds (7.x.x to 5.x.x). I'll use a pair of floor standers. This should let me test the height issue and surround issue. So far I am not that impressed with Atmos. Given how much money and effort it has cost. But of course this could just be because of the setup issues described above. Hopefully I'll be able to get it sounding like it should.
  14. I have figured it out after reading the manual. The AVR has 9 channel amp and supports 11.2 pre out. So built in amp does the 7.x.2 (7.x + height 1). So logically I'm thinking you use ext amp for height 2. I was wrong. If you go 7.x.4, then the surround back output becomes height 2 output, and it's surround back which has to go to ext amp. This makes no sense to me, but now that I know this, I have assigned the amps properly, and the test tones all work. Now will spend the next few days calibrating and finding content. On a side note, I normally play music in stereo, but the amp goes to whatever the last setting on, and in this case, Dolby Surround ... and music does sound really good on it. I'm really impressed. Any recommendations for clips/movies/music? I understand there is actual Atmos music content out there?
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